USAFChief

No matter what you think these top four 2016 Twins outfielders MIGHT become, there is no possible way they deserve three B's and a C. That's crazy talk. If They get three B's, what letter do you give Mike Trout?

TK was right.

And as it turned out, the Twins would have been better off keeping Santana for his last year, rather than trading him for a couple shiny trinkets.

Just males?

We have a system in place to deal with the perpetrators when young women (or young men, or old persons even) are being assaulted. The problem is, we don't know that an assault took place in this instance.

Tsuyoshi Nishioka. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3b5aOelFL4

Actually, 5 of the players were recommended for expulsion. From the available copy: Effective immediately your University of Minnesota studentship will be ended with resultant loss of all student rights and privileges. A disciplinary hold will be placed on your record. The hold will prevent you from registering at the University and from obtaining your records through routine channels.

My agenda would be to ensure the Regents demand those standards from all parties. Students, whether or not they are male athletes, employees, and offices such as the EOAA. I don't believe any of those groups are in compliance in this case.

KSTP has one copy of the EOAA report, and the police report, here: http://kstp.com/sports/university-of-minnesota-eoaa-investigative-report-gophers-football-players/4347059/?cat=1 Ugly. But it bothers me the report finds her inconsisteies make her more credible, while the players inconsistencies make them less credible. No agenda there, right?

Precisely.

a little perspective on "affirmative consent," courtesy of the head of the UofM EoAA Office: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/group-distributes-sexual-consent-contracts/article/2567726

And this is why offices such as the EOAA should stay the **** away from redefining legal terms such as "rape." "Consent has to be ongoing and affirmative" is a standard that is not the same as the standard defined in law. It is in fact, an arbitrary and ridiculous standard that cannot possibly be met. How can it be "ongoing?" Do you ask, continually, for affirmative consent during sex?

Did you? Because there is more to the story. From the original story, 2 months ago: On Sept. 8, police investigators Eric Faulconer and Matthew Wente interviewed Djam. He acknowledged having sex with the woman, but was adamant that it was consensual. As proof, he played them three separate videos, totaling about 90 seconds, taken that morning. During an 8-second clip, the woman “appears lucid, alert, somewhat playful and fully conscious; she does not appear to be objecting to anything at this time,” Wente wrote in his report. After viewing two additional videos, he wrote “the sexual contact appears entirely consensual.” Police later interviewed four other players, who each said the sex was consensual. On Sept. 30, Wente sent the investigation to the Hennepin County Attorney’s office for possible prosecution. In it, he wrote about the videos, “at no time does she indicate that she is in distress or that the contact is unwelcome or nonconsensual.” On Oct. 3 the attorney’s office announced there would be no charges. Afterward, the alleged victim filed a restraining order against six of the players, asking that they be made to stay away from the stadium. After a judge granted the orders, the woman dropped a petition against one of the players. Hutton, the players’ attorney, appealed, setting up a hearing where the woman testified for several hours. The hearing eventually ended in a settlement — the restraining order would be dropped, but the players still had to stay 20 feet away from the woman and have no contact with her. The two sides also agreed that neither would be able to file a lawsuit. “I’m glad this is over,” the student read in a statement after the hearing. “This has never been about punishing anyone, I just wanted to feel safe. Because of this resolution that we came to, now I do.” At the least, the woman's stories are inconsistent. She reportedly plead the 5th more than once during that hearing, too. I do not know if that is trues, but it's easy to find press reports making that claim, if you're inclined.

My quote is an opinion of degrees. The quote from Wolitarsky is factually incorrect. If we're really going down this road, then no...your quote is not an opinion of degrees. It's factually incorrect. But reasonable people understood you, and will focus on your opinion, not parse your phrasing in an effort to focus the discussion away from the issue, and onto the words. Just like reasonable people understand Wolitarsky. And while we're at it, you have stated "Anyone who reads that article and concludes it wasn't a rape is flat out calling the victim a liar." Presumably, you believe that includes the Hennepin County DA, right? He concluded, from the facts, it couldn't be charged as rape. So he's flat out calling the victim a liar?

Oh for Pete sake. If you're going to parse his words that ridiculously closely, I'm going to point out your post immediately above this one..."criminal charges require proof beyond a reasonable doubt." Conviction requires such proof. Not "being charged." Every reasonable person fully understood the context of Wolitarsky's statement, and no reasonable person questions whether he is a "student."

I can't speak for others, but in my case that's what's left between the three of us after my two boys and I went outside to have some fun with the chainsaw they gave me for Christmas one year.

The remaining players are now threatening to boycott the bowl game. All of them. This is awful, on any level, no matter who is actually telling the truth. Awful. And made worse by weak and inept university leadership.

I know it's only rock 'n roll. But I like it.

Alzheimers jokes are the best!

I never understand a single word you say.

Hu is it?

No, Van. We did not. Please, do tell.

The problem with kleptomaniacs is they take everything literally.

"Is Toronto north or south of Minneapolis?" the correct answer: "No."* *"West" is the answer we were looking for.

I'm confident students in those programs have been suspended, we just don't know about it. And unless I'm mistaken, most if not all of the athletic budget at the UofM is self generated. Point being, "drop sports" is a pretty silly argument. A pretty decent argument can be made that people and students get as much out of athletics as they do music, for example. And I'm not arguing to drop music.