Shane Wahl
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Exactly. I asked that question elsewhere and didn't follow up to see responses, but I think that it is an interesting question. I would veer towards keeping Span and trading Revere (as long at the value in return is similar). But maybe none of that until 2013.
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Liriano is barbarically frustrating. Do we TRUST this two-month run? Or do we look at the up and down year-to-year performance as being more relevant. I guess that MAYBE I think MAYBE that the $12 million offer for ONE year is worth making for the Twins. If he accepts, and dominates, all is good. If he sucks, you sink it and deal with making whatever out of that $12 million. If he doesn't accept it (very possible), you get the draft picks. It might be a lucrative situation.
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Obviously proposing trades without any information that is relevant to actual possible or actual negotiations is ridiculous. And it is even more ridiculous when trying to think of trade packages (in the NBA it is much easier, but for MLB it is very difficult). But still, I just want to point out that maybe we should think of Twins trades as not A for B, but maybe AB or ABC for D or DE. What I mean is that someone like Matt Capps might not garner much attention, but adding a guy like Mastroianni (for instance) might be a tiny bit more of an enticement for some contending team looking to add a setup man and potentially OF depth or pinch-running capability. Capps and Burton might have marginal value to contenders, but adding Mastro or Carson or even Bigley might push trades through. I don't think that the Twins necessarily need to get *more* players than they are trading away as long as there is value back in terms of starting pitching.
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I hate the idea of trading Span pre-Hicks (at the least). Span, Benson, Hicks or Revere, Benson, Hicks will be a dominant OF if it can happen. What do people say about Arcia's RF capability? I told some friends THREE years ago that someone of the Revere, Benson, Hicks group HAD to be traded for pitching. It hasn't happened yet and the confusion abounds with regard to Benson (who I thought then was the guy to be traded). People like Carson, Mastroianni, and Ramirez can fill out the 4-5 OF spots. It is not out of the question that two of them could be traded in various packages involving Capps, Liriano, or Burton (for instance).
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Again, I agree that top hitters can jump. And I still say that if competition is even marginally better in AAA, then players should be promoted to AAA before we think they are MLB ready. See Ryan Howard.
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Morosi: Twins are scouting Blue Jays prospects
Shane Wahl replied to Thrylos's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Um, Capps for one of these guys would be brilliant. Liriano is a different story. -
Addendum and clarification: I mean consistent promotions if they are producing. I actually think the Twins did well with Benson and Parmelee all the way until about late July or early August last year. They've done well with Hicks so far as well. I don't want to see that fall apart (again).
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Yeah, Arcia is the only player in the organization above Beloit who I can see it being potentially ok to have jump AAA altogether. I am not sure if this has been answered yet, but are the pitchers in AAA or AA more like those in the majors? Maybe that's a ridiculous question, but I cannot imagine the answer being AA. At the very least, those in AAA are much like 4-5 starters in the majors, right? I find it hard to believe that most players wouldn't benefit more from consistent promotions up to AAA instead of playing them for 2 years or more at any level along the way, including AA. I understand that there are playing-time concerns, especially with catchers and with areas of some depth (OF, for the Twins), that makes it not totally clear-cut. Yet I still look at that 2011 New Britain lineup and what has become of it in 2012. I don't want a repeat of 2012 in 2013.
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See Ben Revere 2011. Chris Parmelee 2012. Then get back to me on that AA vs. AAA thing.
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Aaron Hicks was foolishly discounted over the past two seasons.
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Well it might more likely be that teams with closers might see Capps has a good setup man (fairly true).
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Defending Joe Mauer's value for $23M/per year
Shane Wahl commented on Karl's blog entry in Blog Karl
Exactly. Mauer might end up providing more than $23 million in value this year. And the disastrous use of current spending on those pitchers is the true problem, the true bind, the true whatever on the Twins' payroll. Souhan be damned. -
Action Plan for the Second Half of 2012--Part 3
Shane Wahl replied to stringer bell's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Have to wonder what the trade value comparison is now between Revere and Span. Might the Twins actually get more for Revere? Clearly he's cheaper than Span right now, but that is also an advantage in terms of making him trade bait. I would want the Twins to keep Span until Hicks is ready (maybe at next year's trade deadline, at the earliest) at the very least. But I don't really like the idea of messing with the current Twins lineup too much. -
With a .771 OPS over the past 10 games, Chris Herrmann has proved (with everything else) that he deserves a promotion to AAA. Clearly, Rene Rivera is more important to the organization, however. His OBP is slowly creeping back up. He still whiffs too much, but there is an increase in power to go with that. He had 19 doubles and 8 homers last year in the minors and has 20 doubles and 7 homers SO FAR this year. Herrmann turns 25 in November. There is no reason not to promote him to AAA in the next few weeks.
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Koch has struggled over the past 10 games for a .615 OPS. But given that it is still at .865 for the season in 173 at bats, it is perplexing that he is not being moved through the system faster. He now belongs in Fort Myers. He strikes out too much. This is a clear concern for the Twins semi-moronic minor league administrators (I refuse to call them anything but that). Koch is still walking at a good rate and has power. This makes up for the strikeout rate (apply this to many other minor leaguers being stunted in their development for the same reason). Lastly, Koch is a RH hitter who is hitting righties better this year (.884 OPS).
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God. Trading away a key component at the top of the lineup for an unknown MLB contributor is just ridiculous. As are the subsequent jabberings about Hunter and Lombardozzi. Lombardozzi batting second! Everyone wanting to trade Span is ignoring the hole that creates in the lineup. Full stop. It is not the case that trading him merely means adding a starting pitcher. It means adding a potential starting pitcher and creating a hole in the lineup. The Twins should spend $25 million on two starting pitchers. And forget the rest of this trading away the best players BS.
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Action Plan for the Second Half of 2012--Part 3
Shane Wahl replied to stringer bell's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
No. No. No. The Twins adding OFs is ridiculous. The entirety of the effort here forward must be devoted to starting pitching. Then they should simply figure out what to do about the MI (Florimon at SS, Dozier at 2B, and Carroll at UTIL). This is all that matters. The Twins fixing this problem means 12-15 games. -
Article: What Would It Take To Come Back?
Shane Wahl replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
People, in general, are headline/title readers and likely don't read the full articles before spouting off. -
I agree with you. It is laughable that anyone defends the billionaires in this. My GOD and a half. Billionaires are greedy and have found innumerable ways to take advantage of the public for profit. It seems pretty clear, that profit is more important for the Pohlads and has been forever. One big jump in payroll does not negate that. I am not saying that payroll is everything. But clearly people like Aaron Gleeman are not idiots in maintaining that something is amiss with a new ballpark and a drop in payroll one year later. Edwin Jackson might not have turned 2012 around. But, damn, signing him for 2013, 2014 and 2015 would make the picture look quite a bit brighter, right? Furthermore, who knows what kind of effect another pitcher like that, expected to be the ace, would have had on A: Liriano and his head, B: the Twins attitude towards Pavano's obvious arm problems, and C: the use of Liam Hendriks. It baffles me that people think that moves are made in complete vacuums . . .the truth is that dominoes fall all the time. One signing can bring a chain reaction.
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Exactly. So comparisons to Jason Kendall should just stop. Right now.
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Sure they may have paid the money right away, but that doesn't mean that they are "paying themselves back" now. I am not saying that they are, but just that your point doesn't refute what USAFChief claimed.
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You know how some directors are auteurs that makes their films identifiable without being told who the director of the movie is? I swear, I could tell this was CDog without reading who posted it . . .
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Article: What Would It Take To Come Back?
Shane Wahl replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Damn--compare this season's numbers for Ben Revere and Juan Pierre (note: I don't think a Juan Pierre comparable is such a bad thing). Why not spend $25 million on two starters in the offseason, keep your best players, and not give in to a near-repeat of 2012 in 2013? -
Sorry, I just find the comparison ridiculous. The numbers do not compare. Mauer has 14 more homers now than Kendall did for his career. Walks and doubles are on pace to eclipse Kendall's numbers in 3 and 5 seasons, respectively. Kendall slugged above .435 for three seasons in his entire career. This will be Mauer's fifth full season doing so. And so on. And of course the key difference is that Mauer is now a 1/2 time catcher and is thus staying in the lineup almost all of the time. And what happened? The numbers went up. The comparison seems to just scare the crazed Mauer haters looking at the next 6 years of Jason Kendall post 30. And that's just stupid.
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Action Plan for the Second Half of 2012--Part 1
Shane Wahl replied to stringer bell's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Yangervis Solarte with a .760 OPS in AAA this year, mostly at 2B, but with some time at 3B and in LF. Six homers. 30 walks / 26 strikeouts. 21 doubles. He would have altered this conversation significantly, I think. Not sure why he didn't sign as a six-year FA with the Twins org. Either the Twins didn't want him, or because the Twins FOOLISHLY didn't promote him to AAA late last year when he clearly deserved it instead of the plethora of jokers on that polluted AAA roster last year, he simply wanted to get the hell away. Whatever is going to be the plan next year has to be started this year. So Florimon should definitely get some time (at short) and Dozier can play 2B. If one really thinks that saving $4.5 million or whatever is going to get the Twins to spend that money on pitching, then clearly Florimon and Dozier in, while Casilla and Carroll out (meaning . . . NISHIOKA . . .). I don't think Carroll is going to have any real suitors, though, and he does have very good value as a backup for those three infield positions. If Florimon doesn't work out this year, oh well. Carroll and Nishioka are options still. Beresford is definitely someone who needs to continue AA numbers in AAA before I would think about including him in this mix.
