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Well they had the #1:1 pick and a supplemental pick (#35) and could have drafted several college pitchers who could fast track to the majors instead of a "toolsey infielder" and Outfielder / future DH both of which they have an overabundance in compared to quality pitching. At some point you have to start addressing the key deficiency in the system instead of wishing for something to appear out of thin air.

I don't mean to be negative but quality defense in CF doesn't make up for the fact that he hasn't hit diddly squat so far in almost 700 at-bats and 221 games at the major league level. At what point does he cross over from promising young prospect to major disappointment and finally bust? 4 or 5 years? A decade? He's only 23 right? If some team came knocking offering up a promising young starter like Archer and asked for Buxton as a major key piece in a trade i'd sure as hell listen that's for sure.

Yep at this point.

WOW! That's a bold prediction if i may say so. Not saying right or wrong, just bold. Getting back to the buyers vs. sellers, I don't think the Twins are either at this point. Falvey has hinted they aren't going to mortgage the teams future on rentals to try and sneak into the post season. They might add a couple of minuscule bullpen pieces but nothing major IMO. That said, I still think they should explore moving Dozier and Santana, for the right price that is. However, Dozier is certainly not helping matters and is having a DOWN season ( surprise surprise), and his trade value has shrunk considerably from last season. While i hate to give up Santana he is probably the most valuable trade chip right now and the AStros need pitching help right now after some starting staff injuries. Could be a good fit there and they have a deep farm system right now. Explore that for sure. The only other thing i can think of is see what Oakland wants for Sonny Gray. His is having a decent 2017 season so far averaging 9.1 strikeouts per K9 which would push him ahead of Berrios K/9. A's are looking for outfielders which we have in abundance. Two options Rosario, Granite or Buxton, Granite + Wade or pitching prospect not Romero or Gonsalves. Anyhow, two things I look forward too this offseason. Santiago let go (thank god) along with Scaredy Cat Meow Mix Nibbler Gibson. Both guys have mental fortitude issues and they can cut bait with them with no strings attached. Beyond that i have no idea what happens. Hughes is still with us till 2020 and Joe through next season. After that plenty of cash to go after free agents. In the meantime they should be auditioning Jorge, Romero and Gonsalves now, not next season. If any of these options hit the ground running, give em a mile long leash and let em RUN!

Yeah, would like to see another good start from Jorge to hopefully force his way into the rotation. No reason to continue to put up with mediocrity in the rotation.

Still think we should have taken one of the four pitchers with the first pick and possibly another with the supplemental, but hey it's not my team to run. Have warmed up a bit on the Lewis and Rooker picks. Maybe Lewis turns out to be a great great shortstop. Now we have an abundance of potential SS and trade bait in Lewis, Gordon, Vielma, Javier and Marte. That said, I'm concerned that a consensus has developed that its simply too risky to use high 1st round draft picks on college level starters or high school prep pitchers with ace potential even when a team is so devoid of pitching talent.

Nice to see Thorpe pitching again.

Hopefully he keeps it going, but more importantly becomes more consistent and slowly raises the bar. That said, we've seen him do this before where he comes to life for a couple of games and then falls asleep again for weeks on end.

It would be nice to see them called up to AAA sooner rather than later. Although with Romero that may happen next year.

Why don't they move him closer to the plate? I mean he's got 10-12 inches from his toes to the edge of the batters box.

So a plus curveball, 91-94 mph fastball (prior to spring 2017) and a seldom used change. Several draft forums have documented a significant decline in FB velocity, down from 94 to low 90's and bottoming out in the upper 80's. This is one of the reasons he fell out of the 1st round and into the hands of the Twins. Reminds me of Tyler Duffey (a two pitch reliever).

By the time either one of these guys (Enlow or Leach) make it to the majors it won't matter as the current offensive core will be departing via free agency.

Given that Romero, Gonsalves and Jorge have not pitched above the AA level makes any chance of a fall callup unlikely. If they had started the year at AAA the situation would be different.

Wow Thorpe at 10?

They may not have said it but several of these guys were college guys so the expectation is that they will move faster to the majors than high school draftees. They also can't hide behind the injury bug forever.

How is the thought of trading Dozier (has several guys behind him that can play 2nd or short) or Santana (free agent after next season possibly) "pie-in-the-sky"? I get that there might be limited options in trading either one but "pie-in-the-sky"? come-onnnn

I get what you are saying, but when an organization is so deficient in one area at all levels you SHOULD have that at the top of your wish list of drafting priorities. I'm not saying every pick should be a college level starting pitcher, but it should have been the first couple of picks in my opinion in this years draft because there were plenty of good options available worthy of top 5 picks. No amount of spin can make Lewis a consensus 1:1 pick (which he's not).

You gotta give up something to get something. Who are they going to give up to get a quality third starter and a couple of relief pitchers? It will come at a premium cost too as we are inching up on the all-star break. No. This team is not there yet. Not without giving up Dozier and other pieces and that may still not be enough.

They better MacGyver the rotation and bullpen this offseason as well because they used their top two picks on a toolsey SS with a questionable bat and an OF who will likely end up as a DH. Their third and fourth round picks are pitchers but both high school age. No help there.

Completely disagree. Overused cliche. As has been proven the last couple of games against the Indians and all of last season the Twins DESPERATELY need pitching, pitching AND MORE PITCHING. Drafting Lewis does nothing for this organization for the next 4 to 5 years and by then Sano, Kepler, Buxton, Berrios, etc. are all hitting free agency and knowing this organization they are not going to keep this core together. Sorry, I just can't agree. Should have gone with a college arm with the #1 pick and supplementary pick as well. I could have accepted rolling the dice on Greene because of the potential upside too.

I agree whole heartedly.

Excuse me? You better take a long look in the mirror and read up before telling someone to be smarter! Yes the Twins did want McKay at 1:1, that was there first preference. Now you may not like that and it seems to have your knickers in a twist, but i've read multiple reports including one on baseball America stating as such. Yes, they wanted him badly at 1:1 but were not willing to pay him slot. Don't like the message, don't read my post, but it is true like it or not Alarp. The rest of your post is pointless. I don't care what they are trying to save in later picks by paying under slot with the 1st pick. At 1:1 that is not the pick to be skimping on in order save money for later signings.

Your opinion is not valid because the site owner says so ....so there!

They refused to pay McKay slot and that was THE GUY they wanted.

True, but the wrong ones. They drafted a reliever and attempted to turn him into a starter. The other is a type one diabetic (big red flag for any athlete) and to be honest Stewart was over hyped and never lived up to the scouting reports from day one.