I think a big issue for Republicans, having formerly been one who was recruited by Pawlenty to run for the house.......is that a lot of moderates were forced out of the party and leadership. That has left a real culture of groupthink around many issues for the party as a whole. I sat in some of those meetings (having worked on a Republican presidential campaign).......groupthink is a real problem, that is getting worse according to my friends that just couldn't quit the party, no matter how much they disagreed with it. As for the debate, I missed it, don't have cable. I'm terrified of the anit-science group that wants to make us stupider (and yes, that is an actual strategy espoused by some leaders). There is a large group of people that want us to be stupid, and to just believe stuff, so they can control us. It's one reason they love sports and religion so much......great distractions from the reality of the world.