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I don't think it's as clean as Tom vs Derek. I think Joe was spend spend spend until until the end of 2023 and then he got cold feet. Falvey was on a path of building and was coaxing him along through the collapse in 2024 and the tepid start to 2025, but by the deadline in 2025 Joe made him burn it down. I think Tom came in when the huge debt made the team unsellable. I can't speak to who dug that hole, but it pre-dates the end of the RSN contract and there's never been a Padres-like run for the title so it had to be a business-side stripping of resources. Regardless, he stepped into the baseball side after the season and started saying We Can Win out loud but wouldn't commit to a budget increase. I think Falvey has a long term, very Cleveland-like plan to build the franchise. It starts with getting the pitching development going via draft and trades, and then he's got a pile of position players on the verge that look pretty good too although there hasn't been as much in the way of player development on that side of things. The other half of winning is to spending what he can to augment major league roster to fill in around the development organization he's built. Looking at the team at the end of 2025 they were regularly playing Jeffers, Lewis, Lee, Keaschall, Wallner, Buxton and Larnach, all of whom they drafted. I wish there was a real 1B to be had, and Bader had to take over a bunch of OF playing time because the corners were pretty weak against LH pitching, but the bones were there to field average guys around the field and replace them with better when possible. The pitching was good, sourced from whereever, with a bunch more youth on the way. Going into 2026 Tom felt a need to win to sell tickets and streaming subs, but Falvey mostly felt a giant pain in his bullpen area. If you have good pitching, both rotation and a deep bullpen, you can mark time waiting for the next set of youth to mature. But cutting the bullpen loose meant that they'd have to outscore the other teams to win, and that can't happen with this group. Tom keeps talking big because he needs them to win to make some money, and Derek knew it can't happen right now, so they split.

Fangraphs has a deep investment in methodology and not pissing off fans. Accuracy comes in third or so.

Dan Hayes in The Athletic puts the fire sale on the Pohlads and also describes Tom Pohlad as "naively" asserting that they can win this year. His piece pretty clearly indicates that Falvey was frustrated and they were not going to get along. What's not quite as clear in that piece is which Pohlad was the one who "implored the front office to rip apart the roster before the Aug 1 deadline. " If it was Tom who said both "Sell it all" in July and "We're going to win" in December then I could really see Falvey pulling his hair out.

OK, just read Dan Hayes' piece in The Athletic. Very informative, still leaves a little shadow in the corners but pretty clear about the basics, including a great history of the highs and lows of the past three years. Read it if you can find it. Falvey and Tom Pohlad were not going to get along. It sounds like Tom is going to be more hands-on than Falvey was comfortable with, maybe because he likes being his own guy or maybe because Pohlad knows nothing about baseball. In the context of the parting this morning it really doesn't matter much, but what it means for Zoll and the club going forward is quite another matter. There were a couple vague comments in the article that left me unclear what was going on, but it does look like Pohlad is now the one who claims they can win in 2026. That's probably good for fans. OTOH the odd line below about the deadline fire sale seems to indicate that some Pohlad was the one pushing for the sell off. Either it was Joe and he's gone or it was Tom and he's having a change of heart, but either way Falvey sounds a little POed at the constant changes. There was no indication of a specific match that started the fire, so more stories may be forthcoming, but this is a case of personalities and direction changes rather than bombshells on the ownership or CBA front.

They had another chance six weeks ago when they changed horses in the top office. Falvey gave them a solid enough story for a month but not a year? That makes no sense in any context. No, something else changed since then.

Something drove this at this moment, and it's very likely going to come out in the next couple weeks. Whether it was spending some money on a player, trading one of the big chips or cutting back for the year, Falvey had an idea and Zoll will be tasked with doing the opposite. hang on to your hats.

I don't think the lockout will be long if it happens at all. the beef is between owners, not with the players, and anyone in business for long knows that businesses cut deals. This is a deal that has to be made, just as free agency had to be accepted in the 1070s and revenue sharing was implemented in 1994. You have to do some things to keep the golden goose alive. Also, I think the Pohlads might be setting up to sell most of their stake, but not all, for the reasons outlined yesterday: it's a stable investment in a sea of crazy, especially important for a family with such a large portion of their money tied up in commercial real estate. So in 2027 or whatever you'll likely see the family hang on to 29% and sell their other 51% to someone who wants to become the majority owner. It could be one of these minority guys who came on board in December or a new face, but as soon as the revenue questions are answered the market will pick up and they'll cash out a bunch of their chips.

But what does that say? Was he the advocate for a burn down or just the busy hands? It doesn't indicate if he wants to sell Ryan/Buxton/Lopez or minimize the damage before rolling forward again.

When your budget is closely approved each year you really can't run up nine digits of losses. That money was pumped out of the organization at an industrial scale by owners and accountants, not baseball operations. I do agree with your two other points, that a deal was probably scotched and that it led to a bad conversation that blew things up. That reflects poorly on Pohlad again, of course, since he mostly likely moved the goalposts on Falvey again. That's been the case many other times.

I will say this is almost certainly not performance related. Nothing has changed since the transition last month, so either he should have been canned then or he should be allowed to keep going now. Some other decision, news, development away from the field had to have triggered this. Maybe it was sales info, new ownership money problems or news on the CBA front, but this was not rooted in anything visible to the public. Maybe they just got a line on a new head of baseball ops and want to install him immediately. My fear is it's a more mundane cause like deciding that no one in ownership has the cash to step up right now so they're going to dial everything back for a year and see how the CBA goes.

How would anyone separate Zoll from Falvey? They worked together for years, Falvey practically raised him. Maybe a difference of opinion on the sell-off? a coup? There's quite a story hiding here.

Oh, a couple other thoughts: I expect taking this team into the season with one more crappy bullpen arm in order to sell tickets, and once the season tickets are as sold as they're going to get there will be a major sell-off over the course of the summer. Within a year you'll start seeing the good work that Falvey did come to fruition. the pitching pipeline that you all mock so much is going to start launching good careers: Abel, Bradley, Mathews and so on, plus the hitters coming through are going to be pretty good eventually. If anyone here has any integrity you should be acknowledging this administration's work. In 2027, after the CBA is settled, I expect one of the minor partners to buy up 51% and ride the kids to the ALCS before 2030. They'll spend what the Pohlads were always afraid to and win.

Guessing here: Falvey probably isn't as good at business as he is at baseball, but the financial malfeasance predates him. He didn't get that job until 2024, after the fire sale and $400m hole was dug. Tom P is the new face of ownership, but I bet the new financial partners are getting far enough into ops to start offering some "advice". They may have offered him some money to put some lipstick on this pig at the time of transition, but after seeing the ticket sales "bounce" and the anticipated streaming revenue it might have been reeled back just as Derek was going into his last weeks of winter rag picking. Not getting the promised money right now probably initiated a hard discussion about 2026 resources, separating the business role, and maybe some "then this really can't work, can't it?" and a mutual reset. They may not actually know what their next step is right now, beyond playing kids and sorting bullpen arms. Again, I'm betting this goes back to wavering, indecisive ownership changing direction, changing budget, changing commitment. Cannot wait for them to sell.

Sooo many questions... Was a proposed move shot down? The last $5m not actually there? A hard discussion about real expected 2026 outcomes finally laid out? Was this planned since Tom P stepped in a month ago?

Most of them, the pitchers anyway, only ever saw Minneapolis because of the sell-off. Pereda was there for the catcher injuries and Julien was not in that category, he'd been up and down for several years.

Hey look, Gasper is back on waivers! See, these guys are all over the place, all the time.

Ohl had reached his peak and it wasn't going to play in MLB. The number of guys with only a change and no other offerings is vanishingly small. You can name them (Doug Jones, Jamie Moyer) because they're so unusual. Adams still has to condense his repertoire down to a solid core and focus on throwing his best 20-25 pitches in each outing, but he's already stopped thinking about the second time through the lineup. @nicksaviking has a point in that going to the pen really does involve a head shift and some actual learning of what does and doesn't work in that role. It's going to take a little time to guide Festa or whoever though that process.

They aren't DFAing Raya without giving him a full chance in the pen, not with redundancies like the army of corner OF, both Grey and Kreidler, and a guy like Jackson who would very likely pass through waivers.

I think the point is Adams will be the Dobnak of this spring: experienced but not really that talented and a bridge to the young/injured guys when they are ready.

One of the great bar league softball insults: "Are you sure you're right handed?"

That's the same thing as winning with Miranda, Wallner, Julien, Kirilloff, etc from four years ago except no foundational building blocks in CF or the rotation. Lots of hoping that all the kids work out at once plus the optimistic fiction that the year this comes together is right around the corner. That lineup doesn't win without an excellent starting rotation. There's just not enough scoring to make SWR and the best version of Ober stand up in the playoffs, and even the handful of fine SP prospects we have are not going to become World Series worthy in two or three years. Bradley already has three full MLB seasons, you think there's some corner ahead of him he's about to turn? If you want a "true long-term winner" then you absolutely have to hang on to the stars when you come across them and save money on the fungible parts that matter less (no news there.) So pay what it takes for the excellent starting pitchers and one or two offensive stars and then find excellence by parts for the rest. Meaning that if you can't find a very good two way SS, for example, you don't settle for an average one, you get one that's excellent at either offence or defense. Jeter was only a good-enough defender but hit very well. Cleveland kept Omar Vizquel around for amazing glovework despite his career 82 OPS+. To succeed MIN needs to spin through the kids faster to identify who will or will not be excellent at anything and swap them for others earlier. That's the magic of what Tampa Bay does so well: get rid of the average ones before they're so old that everyone else can see the lack of excellence. The organization messed up very badly after 2023. They are still digging out, but the shortcut to getting back is hanging on the foundational players. The old "will this guy be on the next great team" nonsense doesn't work because most teams never get enough better to be great as they keep sending the present out for another couple years of potential. Most of the time when a team like MIN trades a guy like Ryan for anticipated cost reasons they want back an awesome prospect, but it's almost never a guy that shows up in under two or three years. Our last anticipatory dump was probably Jose Berrios in 2021, which got Austin Martin and SWR, and those guys are still on the upswing. Teams buying that type of star usually want to keep their own players because they are winning, and weakening the current team in a trade works against that. A guy that'll bring the moon with two years left will bring a lot at one year, and still a bunch at the deadline. If you always choose to give up an extra year or two in advance you will not ever have a present. There's some art in choosing deadline vs one year vs two, but given the amount of talent that's potentially only a half season away this is not the time for this team to give up and wait for 2028.

Actually they need to move on from Sabato so that they can play some other people at 1B and create some depth. Even if it's not full time, have some of the OF at least learn the rudiments of the position this spring so they have flexibility when spots open up. If Bell gets hurt and Clemens sucks it would be great if, say, Wallner could slide in for a couple weeks and let someone play OF who is good at it. Longer term maybe Fedko or Gonzalez can spend more time there in St Paul this summer and see how they look. Draft is not destiny.

Maybe, sure. Right now they have a lot of starters on the doorstep, so sift through those and find out who can pitch. There are some hitters that are half a season away so get them in the game and see what you have. Move the ones that don't measure up to make room. Try not to block anyone, add where you have holes. Hey look, that's what they're doing. I won't defend everything this front office is doing. I think they could trade from their heap of young pitchers to get a real long-term 1B or C, for example. But they are moving on from some of the last wave of Super Prospects (TM) to make space for the new faces, so thanks and good luck to Miranda, Julien and we'll see who else in the coming month. Hail and well met to our new guys, let's see how the next couple weeks go.

Regarding Miranda, he had things figured out in 2024 when he was hit in the head by a pitch. He has not recovered from that, probably due to a concussion. Those can take years to recover from, so maybe in 2026 or 2027 he'll get back to where he was and finally have that career Twins fans were hoping for. Jose Miranda's HBP in head was 07/28/2024. https://www.mlb.com/twins/video/jose-miranda-hit-by-pitch-willi-castro-to-2nd Before HBP, Miranda was .324/.367/.517 OPS .884 wRC+ 149 BABIP .349, 5.0% BB, 13.5%K, .193 ISO After the HBP, Miranda was .211/.236/.303 OPS .539 wRC+ 48 BABIP .261, 2.7% BB, 18.9%K, .092 ISO

This is nonsense. Tell me the steps that "a true run at winning" look like, because I could sell them to about 20 teams. Until they move the team to 2015 Los Angeles and get a new revenue source they are going to have to go with player development and a little luck, just like most teams. If you want say "Keep trading away players until you get a great mix of can't-miss prospects and then strike" you're going to have to be more specific. MN has four on the fresh Top 100 Prospect list, so when should they go all in? Do you want anyone on this roster? Any of the many first rounders? Lewis sucks, can't stay healthy, hasn't proven anything. Bradley already has three years in, no future left so send him. Keaschall is probably too old since he won't be here in 2031 so we should trade him while he still has five years of control left. If you trade away Lopez and Ryan you leave the earliest possible chance at "true winning " as far away as it takes for three or four of the current youth (SWR and Ober have to go!) to lift themselves to top of MLB. You think three or four of those guys are here yet? Because Ryan and Lopez have to get us the catcher and 1B and SS of the future. Culpepper is no Jeter and True Winners need top talent. This is such nonsense.