The only thing I'll add to this argument is the following: I think it says a lot about the sad direction that baseball in general, and particularly the Twins have gone when starts like these deserve praise. It used to be starters were expected to go 9 innings, unless they got hurt or completely fell apart. Then closers became a part of the game, and starters were expected to go 8 solid innings, and hand a lead to the closer. Then bullpens expanded even more, and starters were expected to give you 7 good innings. More recently, the Quality Start stat was invented, and starters were simply expected to put up utterly mediocre numbers (6 IP, 3 ER). Now it has gotten so bad that guys are not even expected to give you that bare minimum?? They get high praise and a pat on the back for simply getting to the 7th inning, even if they give up 4 or 5 runs? That is just sad, and it's not just the Twins, though the Twins are probably more guilty of it than just about anyone.