Alright Chief, you've made the point. Baseball is certainly a special type of business. Granted. Now, to compare the mid market Twins to the Yankees, Red Sox, and Dodgers is not fair. Those team can throw 200M into their roster and still come out better than the Twins in the ledger. So really it's less "Desire to Win at All Costs" and more we're filthy stinking rich and we have more disposable income. I share many of your frustrations with the Twins. I just choose to view their shortcomings in a more positive light. If I didn't do that, why would I bother being a fan? I'd stick my eggs in the Wild basket, or the Rubio/Love Timberwolves basket. But I was a Twins fan first, and I will be a Twins fan last. Call me an appologist if you will, but I support the team as a business, as a form of entertainment, as an experience, and I won't look for excuses to denigrate them. That's my stance and I'm sticking to it