yeah, I just can't see low-80s in 2014...I mean even if everything you say happens, and its' all possible, it's still only their first year in the bigs. The adjustment, the ups and downs, but that's another reason why I want Hicks up ll year. He can get that out of the way and that's one less guy we'll have to have dealing with that next year and the year after. Just my opinion.