People go to the ballpark hopng to see the Twins WIN. I think the Pohlads are stingy, sure. But I don't believe for a second that Terry was asking for more high salary free agents, and Dave and Jim shot him down. Terry Ryan is by nature a conservative general manager, a garage sale guy. He looks for bargain basement players. That is NOT how to build a winner. Gardy wasn't soem genius that ownership did dirty. He played favorites. He spurned the kids in favor of his Kubel and Bartlet retreads. Ownership gave $23 million a year to a glorified singles hitter who is not a leader. It spent way too much on long shots like Pelfrey. This combination of stingy ownership, conservative GM and old school Gardy was a disaster. The proof is in the standings.They talk about loyalty. How about loyalty to the fans that want a contender? Twins need to have a salary level of $115 million to compete. You get what you pay for. Twins need to sign free agents that are winners. Not just a bunch of mediocre placeholders. The reason the Twins won two world series is that the roster was populated by winners like Rat, Hrbek, Kirby, Gagne and Gladden, Baylor, Winfield, and Bruno. Guys that you expectred something to happen when they came up with runners on base. And they had invested in top level pitching, Bert, Viola, Erickson, Morris.... Taps would be the best pitcher on the staff today.. Jim Pohlad better wake up. And Terry Ryan will never go out and sign a Price level SP. He is just too much of a garage sale GM. It is as if Calvin Griffith was still running the team.