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  1. Please reread the post you responded to while trying to see what "either of those two things" might be referring to and then respond. Your response here is totally irrelevant to my point.
  2. You just landed on double secret probation for that.
  3. Good for Gardy, like him or not it's a rare achievement.
  4. The only thing false is the narrative that our great farm is certain to change it. It is most definitely not certain. Smerf is just pointing out that prospects alone, without the willingness to trade or sign aggressively, will also likely fail to deliver a winner. Or it is significantly more difficult. until shown otherwise, this GM and this franchise have earned no trust they will do either of those things. Nicks article speaks to this as well. Waiting for everything to magically come together perfectly is only a good recipe to do more waiting.
  5. Considering the opinion didn't fall far from your typical position, how was it obvious you were being sarcastic exactly? How about predicting Willy to be hurt and Doumit to slump. Those were both very much in their career histories. The commentary here has nothing to do with whether Ryan could or could not have done more. It has everything to do with him evaluating the roster he was offering and his belief they could play .500. That has nothing to do with FA or trades or anything else but entirely with a baffling conclusion after evaluating his roster.
  6. If your plan is to have everything go right with no margin for error....I call that poor planning. I only would excuse the Worley and Hicks issues personally. Plouffe's history was not on our side that he would get better. Ditto Willingham and Doumit. Everything you listed was very much forseeable as problems. In fact, many here posted exactly those concerns prior to the season. This wasn't some kind of disaster of bad luck - this was a roster with limited talent that was relying too much on hope rather than depth of actual talent.
  7. Hey...yards after catch? Who needs that when you can vaguely throw to guys and barely get completions. No doubt that Jennings TD never happens with Ponder out there.
  8. But it was the right time to throw the offense and particularly Plouffe under the bus? Because he did that. Why not just throw both under the bus then, they were both a problem.
  9. So the OP's paraphrasing was almost word-for-word accurate. So all the skepticism talk can just die right here, he dismissed the ERA stat in favor of saying he wasn't "as down" on the pitching as the stat indicates. Ugh. Terry also said he thought before the season they could finish at or above .500. What roster was he looking at?
  10. Of course not, but he also admitted they'd do little in the near term to make significant improvement. So another very poor season is pretty likely given that pronouncement.
  11. I can tell you as a former season ticket holder that they HEAVILY pushed returning to it for the incentive of getting all-star game tickets. The fact that they haven't seen an even bigger dip in those numbers is very much related to that IMO. As for the rest, it's hard to take your position seriously. Prospect hope doesn't sell season tickets in most any market or any sport. People are interested to see those players, but not to the tune of thousands of dollars before they even know if the team is going to be watchable much less competitive. And even if that hope did sell tickets...a 30-45 day estimate for 1 player that is almost certain not to be on the team next year and another who might not be until July is, again, hard to take seriously. My three year estimate was based on likely having them both completing their rookie years prior to impacting sales.
  12. Attendance should absolutely be a concern. The team sold, IMO, a sizable chunk of season tix on their allstar game promises. Those expire soon and even if Sano and Buxton are amazing it's still likely three years at the soonest that they start to draw fans into more than single game purchases. Attendance could start to be a very real factor precisely at the times most here think it will be time to plunge heavy into FA. If the ERA comment is accurate, that is a major blow to my feelings about Ryan. One thing that has always been impressive about the man is his willingness to be accountable. That comment is both a terrible copout and incredibly false way to evaluate performance. It depens my worries that we still set the bar too low on pitching expectations.
  13. I never suggested we shouldn't be hopeful for more about our future. But the narrative that aggression doesn't work as a method just isn't true. Some teams/GMs can, and do, pull it off.
  14. What the Indians did to get here was show aggressiveness in FA and in trades. That's not something we've seen from our club for basically two decades. What this shows, more than anything, is that aggressive attempts to improve your club can pay off positively and isn't so certain to fail as we, as a fanbase, are lead to believe.
  15. True but by and large its still the hitters that pay the price for the pitchers nonsense.
  16. Of course Gomez acted like a schmuck. The difference is, pitchers show up, bean, and brush hitters all the time nd hitters re supposed to ignore it. A guy takes an extra second after doing something really hard to do....and he is always the clown. The unwritten rules are so lopsided for pitchers I don't blame hitters for taking offense. its all nonsense and stupid, but pitchers do it and get away with it far more often.
  17. By all accounts Pinto has a long way to go defensively but is working hard, but hes still not nearly as good as Mauer. And i would address 1B in FA, finding an average to above average 1B in FA is easier and cheaper than maybe any other position.
  18. Youre a smart guy Ben, listen to yourself. These are eexactly the arguments you just used: 1. Well.......everyone else is doing it! 2. It is how it has always been which makes it ok 3. He threw something tht could seriously hurt him the "right way" for having the audacity to shift himself in the batters box. good god, that's Fallacies 101. We don't accept that from kindergartens on the playground but we justify professional adults with it.
  19. And hitters get hit all the time for trivial stuff. Maybe if everyone wasn't so sensitive about things none of this would happen.
  20. It bugs me we feel we can completly bypass having a competent replacement. The proposals here basically are calling for us to go from one position at league average and one well above to one below and one average. And that's if Pinto is only bad defensively and not both. Just not a fan of that with no reliable alternative and no assurance it will extend his career.
  21. I don't think ridiculous is right here. Ryan's strengths may no longer be the right ones for this organization. We aren't the mid 90s Twins playing in the dome and this isn't 1992 in stats, analysis, development, and drafting. I haven't seen much in the way of Ryan altering his approach to better succeed in this landscape. There are plenty of valid reasons for criticism, even if you still might endorse him staying.
  22. This whole thing gets avoided without unwritten rules. A pitcher can retaliate and show up a hitter for any perceived infraction, but a hitter takes out frustration and he's demonized. Not saying Gomez was justified, but these ass backwards quasi-rules literally create these moments out of nothing.
  23. I, for one, don't understand the idea of bypassing a talent on the off chance someone pops up out of nowhere looking for a job. We have plenty of room for both.
  24. I understand your point, but if he is that susceptible to another concussion it won't matter where we play him. The day may come when we protect him by moving him, but I don't think a switch made out of fear now, with no definitive replacement, sets this team back even further than it already is.
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