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  1. Strictly using OPS seems a tad silly does it not? One month it's a high BABIP, one month he's handing out HR souvenirs, the next month it's something else. The guys profile offensively is schizo, which in my eyes, makes sustainability more questionable. Was his second half OPS similar...sure. But it ignores an August BABIP that was 100 points higher than his usual one that drove that OPS when the power sapped. I'd suggest this heavy-handed, one stat analysis is a pretty disengenuous way to argue for an extension. Dozier is a good player we have several years of team control through his peak years and you combine that with his erratic offensive contributions and, IMO, you are taking a wildly unnecessary risk to extend him.
  2. I'd like this signing more if we had moved one of our other veteran relievers at the deadline and/or non-tendered a few.
  3. Just saying...but it may help our developing young starters if we had guys that could field in the outfield.
  4. Count me as someone who believes Dozier's second half numbers are cause for concern. Dozier's method of contributions are very erratic and I am uneasy investing heavily in that sort of player. I still need to see more from him before I want an extension.
  5. Nice work Twins, this is a good move.
  6. Perhaps Ryan's scale for good outfield defense is broken. For further evidence consider his Hunter comments.
  7. Should have added an "honest" next to that assessment.
  8. I am genuinely confused how anyone comes away with that positive of an assessment.
  9. People....Hicks is not a good defensive centerfielder. His "prowess" is average at best. If we're going to field a guy in CF that can barely hit .200....can we at least get a dude that covers ground like a madman?
  10. Well, for one, they both are average to below average defensive CFs. Secondly, Hicks has catastrophically failed twice now and putting a switch hitter into a platoon is basically acknowledging he's failed to develop. I'm not ready to give up hope on him, not until I've seen him work at it in AAA and try one last time.
  11. There are a lot of things that might frustrate me out of ST, but none of them as much as the idea that CF for this team is Hicks and Schaefer. I may lose it if that's what our plan is.
  12. I'm trying to convince myself that it doesn't seem likely.
  13. Going back two years seems like a poor sample. Take the last decade and look at how the actual top-end pitchers performed. I used to believe the same thing you do, but the stats are absolutely unsupportive of that opinion. The best ingredient to winning a World Series is a lot of luck and enough guys getting hot at the same time. Or basically the ingredients for success in any small sample.
  14. In addition to Willihammer point, I think you'd be surprised if you looked back at how ineffective many aces have been relative to some schmo with a magical postseason. Bumgarner was amazing in the playoffs, but that is far from common. The last time the Giants won the pennant it wasn't Bum, Cain, or Lincecum that lead the way.....it was Ryan Vogelsong. A guy all of us cringe at adding today. I'd recommend anyone that believes "Ace = World Series" to go back and look at just how very untrue that idea is. They are, however and as you point out, extremely valuable to being a better baseball team over the long season.
  15. There you go, now you used the stat correctly. And I agree, Laroche is a better player. I didn't need convincing, I just found it amusing to see WAR used incorrectly again after being reassured everyone knows how to use it. It's not good short-hand. In fact, WAR is AWFUL short-hand.
  16. Jay, these are the same thing. Just one makes you feel better about it by how you phrase it. Let me be clear, I don't think we've wrecked any careers or anything like that, but we have deliberately played worse players with less upside for whatever reason you want to cite. We seem to be in prime position to do so again in a few months and I hope that doesn't happen.
  17. I'm making no claim on the point. I like the Laroche signing and think he'll be a good player for them. That doesn't change the fact that comparing one year of WAR data for two players is just a fundamental misuse of the stat.
  18. 1) The study has the same problem for all the teams and the sample is large enough to draw pretty reasonable conclusions. Namely - the Twins are definitely on the less aggressive side of things. Particularly as the player gets to the upper minors. 2) The Twins adding Ervin Santana is not the problem. The Twins' tendency to default to a guy like Mike Pelfrey over Trevor May is. My issue in this thread started with the pollyanne arguments that there would be a true competition for the spots that are available. (I think there is one, two tops) Given this team's decision making for quite some time, I have significant doubts that will happen. As Nick said earlier - Trevor May should walk into ST the favorite and I couldn't feel any less confident in that. That's the problem. Not Ervin Santana but the Twins ridiculous penchant for veteran innings eaters over younger, more talented pitchers. I'm glad we agree about the 5th spot going to Pelf over May and I genuinely hope I'm wrong, but we have a lot of evidence over the years to indicate I'm worried for good reason.
  19. Heh, I think there was a thread not long ago about how often WAR is misused. This thread is wonderful evidence of that.
  20. Here is just a sample of the evidence: these are the names of the pitchers we chose to use over Alex Meyer, Trevor May, or Kyle Gibson the last two years: Yohan Pino, Kevin Correia (or as you might know him in 2015 - Mike Pelfrey), Sam Deduno, Anthony Swarzak, Logan Darnell, Kris Johnson, Scott Diamond, Pedro Hernandez, Andrew Albers, Cole DeVries, Liam Hendricks, and PJ Walters. Now I'll save you the trauma of their numbers, but suffice to say we didn't need to look at these players. We certainly didn't need to look at all of them more than once. We have a definitive pattern of delaying our young players longer than any other team, so suggesting otherwise is demonstrably false. We do it and we do it frequently and moreso than basically any other team in the league. (At least in the last 5-8 years) I think it's comical that we defend the way in which we've handled some young starters the last few years under the guise that we "had some AAAA guys to look at" and then champion the improvement of the rotation because we won't be using AAAA guys. Seems like a self-inflicted wound the team repeatedly has not learned from and one I'm not prepared to believe they've learned from until I see the behavior change. Until we ACTUALLY waive Pelfry or option Milone out of ST for May or Meyer this seems like wishful thinking. And, hey, I get the argument with Meyer. Trevor May? If Pelfrey goes north in that spot over him it's nothing short of ridiculous.
  21. This is a reflection of how every Sox fan I know feels about their team. The "grass is greener on the other side" version some here are longing for is precisely that. Not that I don't envy and like many of the things they do, it just seems sexier to us because it's the opposite of what we do.
  22. Right, so there is only one spot despite the way you tried to portray the situation just a few posts back. But even more than that....do you really believe that if they are better pitchers through March, April, or even May....that the Twins will just go to them? Mind you, we've seen lopsided evidence to the contrary on this. I want to believe it, but damned if I can.
  23. I'm fine with all that. I'm even ok with the first year approach of clearing the deck for Hicks to start. My question is, why do we do that for hitters and the exact opposite for pitchers?
  24. I'd like to feel that they actually have an equal shot as Milone, Pelfrey, and maybe even Nolasco. Do you honestly feel like they will?
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