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Article: Go "Behind the Voice" with Sean Aronson
TheLeviathan replied to Sarah's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
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Article: Go "Behind the Voice" with Sean Aronson
TheLeviathan replied to Sarah's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I have concluded you are PA's mother. Only conclusion I can use to make sense of this post.- 10 replies
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Article: Go "Behind the Voice" with Sean Aronson
TheLeviathan replied to Sarah's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Whelp, found a way to like him less. Didn't think that was possible.- 10 replies
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Article: Haley Trade Carries Shades Of Old And New
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Article: Official Winter Meetings Wednesday Thread
TheLeviathan replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I'm fine with using that as leverage.- 163 replies
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Article: Official Winter Meetings Wednesday Thread
TheLeviathan replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Anyone still want to hang on to Ervin Santana in this trade market? No? Me either. Some of us have been pleading for the Twins to sell. It looks like the awful FA market is ramping the seller's market even higher than anyone could have dreamed. Sell!- 163 replies
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Article: Official Winter Meetings Wednesday Thread
TheLeviathan replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
That Nats-Sox deal stinks of blackmail. It's the only explanation I have.- 163 replies
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Article: Official Winter Meetings Wednesday Thread
TheLeviathan replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Desmond to play 1B, well into his thirties, for that much money, and losing the 11th pick? I'm not sure my fandom could survive that move.- 163 replies
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Well, I hope we're always careful,
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As a Twins fan I want them to win. I don't care that Dozier is a nice guy or the face of the team. I want wins. Short of dealing Dozier, i don't know how we right this ship for quite awhile.
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The longer we go without a deal, the more my Minnesota-induced sports pessimism ramps up.
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Article: Official Winter Meetings Monday Thread
TheLeviathan replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Was more my pessimism as a Minnesota fan speaking than anything.- 70 replies
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Article: Official Winter Meetings Monday Thread
TheLeviathan replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
This is all setting us up for a massive let down when Dozier is not dealt for a franchise saving trade.- 70 replies
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Article: Official Winter Meetings: Sunday Thread
TheLeviathan replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Let's do this!- 82 replies
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No one move is going to be "enough". If we're waiting to cross that threshold we might as well shut the place down for a few years. We can only evaluate what has happened so far and that is all that was being discussed. The very nature of the phrase "strong start" indicates an evaluation of what has taken place, with the expectation that more will take place. (Otherwise we'd not call it a "start") I'd suggest Nick isn't in need of rephrasing himself at all, you're taking the comments beyond their intended scope. We all expect more to be done. We can also appreciate a really nice start on the way to that.
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I took the comment to be "Top FA priority". He may not have meant that or he may have, I don't know. I hope catcher was their top FA priority. I hope dealing Dozier and Santana are their top non-FA priorities.
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In this FA class, I hope catcher was their primary target. It was by far the best player, for the most need that this group offered.
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You're welcome to your opinion. Labeling the idea of this being a strong start the symptom of "embarrassingly low" expectations seems to be the real problem here. You made it about that when the first post, and subsequent opinions, said nothing of the sort. I, for one, still have high expectations and am still quite happy with this start. They need not be the same thing, as you have tried to tie together repeatedly.
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Of course I'm using hyperbole, anything short of that wouldn't do justice to what some are saying in here. At best you can argue that you're splitting hairs about what a "strong start" means. That's literally the best frame I can give what you've said in this thread. You've used terms like the "bar is embarrassingly low" and "horribly low" as if you think Nick or anyone else is setting up a church in their name. A strong start is simple - so far, so good. We can evaluate that regardless of how the previous administration would've operated. And we should do so without thinking "bold" has to mean something that rarely happens. Bold can just mean confidently going out and doing what has to be done. It doesn't have to mean something crazy or out of left field. So, yeah, am I stretching? Absolutely. But so are you. You've stretched "bold" and "strong" to the point of being incomprehensible and meaningless. And you've taken them totally out of the context they were being argued.
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Have they cured cancer yet? That'd be a strong start. Otherwise....what are they wasting their time on? Baseball? As long as this thread is going to be preposterous let's dive in with both feet!
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I would like to see these guys fired. They've failed to extract a DNA sample from Mike Trout and clone him 9 times and they've had, like, a whole month on the job already! Losers. Seriously, no one is arguing they deserve statues. They're off to a strong start. They're shopping the right people. Cutting ties with the right people. Added the best available player at a high position of need for a reasonable contract. And they continue to say the right things about what they intend to do here. If you're going to find a way to complain about that I'm not sure why anyone should take your opinion seriously. At that point you're just trolling or overly obstinate.
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They signed the best player available at a giant area of need. That's the definition of "strong start"
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I don't think it's realistic to burn the place down and rebuild. They need to imprint their vision on those here and find out who can go along with it and who is too stuck in the past. A few former players associated with the franchise doesn't move the needle much. It's probably more of an olive branch than anything. I do get the concern, the rampant nepotism in this organization has long been my main issue. I'm just going to give these new guys plenty of leeway early on. They deserve that and I don't want to judge their actions by decades of actions by Ryan. I'm not sure that's fair. But I am, just like you, wary of the nepotism.
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I'm fine with outside voices bringing in players from the past. The decision making to reach that conclusion is much different than if it was Ryan doing the same thing.
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Article: Dozier Trade Talk Heating Up?
TheLeviathan replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I don't want to take a #3 pitcher. I want a young player with upside. Someone who could help transform this rotation. We already have a #3 in Ervin Santana and we should be dealing him too. I don't see next year as anything worth fussing over. This team is too far away for that. Deal the guys who are likely at peak value, who are old enough not to build around, and try to get some pieces that you can. Keep Dozier and Santana and you can expect the next two years when you have them to be, at best, mediocre. Deal them for the right players you can control for 6 or more years? Now you have some hope to be better than that.

