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  1. The problem is that if we're going to rely on drafting and developing starting pitching....that might take awhile. The current offensive core is here right now. I'm all for this FO really investing the time and effort into fixing the structures that develop young pitching, but that investment isn't bearing fruit anytime soon and we're talking about upgrading now. Part of what made Darvish appealing is that he's a significant, immediate upgrade that wouldn't necessarily hamstring the team's future. Trading for Archer requires pulling from the farm. Signing Darvish only requires pulling from the wallet. I don't think anyone disagrees that this team is primed to have a nice run here.....but only if they acquire pitching to help right now. So talk of the farm is just not applicable to this conversation.
  2. I'm guessing something in the neighborhood of 4/50 or 4/60. I always thought Cobb was the more likely target and possibly even a better value, but we haven't seen the team particularly attached to him so far this offseason. I think signing him could still do a world of good, but I would probably still get at least one other arm.
  3. We balked, at least partially, at an opt-out clause did we not? On the basis of it being too "advantageous" for the player. We also balked at a 6th year, but that was the expectation for Darvish in November and we didn't seem to be balking then. Neither of those strike me as particularly courageous. They made good signings with Pineda, Reed, and Rodney. I tip my cap to them. But they deserve no shade here - their comments before and after have made this situation very questionable and should be approached with skepticism that reflects that rather than lining up excuses.
  4. Less crappy outcomes do not equal "positives". You construed our best pitcher being out for April to help with September as "That's Good". Myself, and others, are responding to your arguments. We're responding to the blatant contradictions in your own blog posts on Darvish. We're responding to your manufactured, poor arguments as some desperate attempt at a silver lining. Sorry Nick, the landscaping doesn't look nice with the house on fire. The house is still on fire. That is not "good", no matter how many ways you want to spin it.
  5. He had way more solid ground to stand on in that argument though.
  6. Many other fan bases should also be upset at what is happening. I don't win brownie points with my wife when I tell her it's a priority to get her wine for V-Day at the store and all I muster up the ability to do is park in the parking lot. I'm not even really all that outraged at missing out on Darvish. What outrages me is the excuse parade after the fact. The bizarre, nonsensical arguments to spin the disappointment. To defend opt out clauses. To make a month of our best pitcher being down a "good thing". How we just couldn't compete in the most depressed contract market of our lifetime. On and on. That's what has me outraged. Not getting Darvish is just disappointing, but I had low expectations. But for the posters and bloggers here I'd expect more than this onslaught of nonsense.
  7. Knowingly offering lesser contracts and throwing trade offers around as items to credit a front office with seems really patronizing. We have set the bar for credit far too low.
  8. Now this is a blog idea to help us all laugh through our misery.
  9. I'm not arguing it's crippling. I just wouldn't spend any time trying to argue it as a positive. We lost our best pitcher for a month, spinning that into positives is just silly. There is a wide gulf between "Crippling" and "let me try to sell you this rock and tell you it's a lump of gold" I'm in that wide gulf. And I'd suggest the degree of silliness required to try that argument might be indicative of the value of your overall effort. Maybe, rather than go down paths that absurd, it would've been better to just try something else entirely. Or, at least, understand why people aren't buying your sales pitch that the rock is really gold.
  10. Yeah, but Milwaukee has a bigger market and better weather. Wait....
  11. Ok, so you want to balance the bitterness. Wouldn't a far better tact to have been an article titled, and themed, "Ok...here's what we can still do" and then go on to discuss our options in the wake of a disappointing result? Instead, in the face of disappointment to try and sell the idea that Ervin Santana not pitching is a good thing (among a host of other arguments that make "silly person" Monty Python memes seem insufficient) just seems desperate. Or disingenuous. Or insulting. Or a host of other unpleasant adjectives. That doesn't balance the bitterness, it only enflames it.
  12. We could also save wear and tear on Buxton by sitting him until June. Anyone down for that?
  13. You know what might help alleviate some of the brooding and pessimism? If we weren't trying to force feed optimism and understanding into this. If we just accepted, even for a day, that this sucks. No one pretending it's fine. No one making excuses. We all just accept it stinks. Then move forward with what's next. It's like watching your house start on fire and turning to your spouse to talk about how nice the fire makes your landscaping look.
  14. Of course! Until there isn't. Then we can talk about how death by shark isn't as bad as you've heard. There's always another way to spin things!
  15. "Don't worry about the ship sinking, I hear the life rafts stay afloat for at least ten minutes!"
  16. I guess. But he was a Bull and that seems to be all it takes with Thibs.
  17. Only to be beat out by Cleveland's 5 year 110,000,000.05 offer and we'll be told how no one wants to live where it's cold, we got beat out by a big market, and that 5 cents would have crippled our future.
  18. Why are we talking about Rose and not Bellenili? I know he signed with Philly, but he would've seemed like a better fit.
  19. Now you're not even trying. Or trying too hard.
  20. Fair enough, your last paragraph is a part people really don't seem to get: The big markets were largely non-factors this season. It's not like we went into the usual FA fight armed with a butter knife against the tanks of NY and LA. Everyone came to this fight with sporks and we couldn't even muster up the courage to get out the butter knife.
  21. What does it matter? If philosophically we seem opposed to even treading in those waters we have our answer either way. And look, the team can draw the line in the sand where it wants and if we find where that line is we can discuss it then. What I'm done hearing is the same old song and dance about how players are turning down our superior offers because it's Minnesota. The only thing about Minnesota that makes players turn down offers here is our consistent approach of offering inferior contracts. Period.
  22. Doesn't this all but settle the fact that the Twins knew they were offering a lesser contract (by not offering the opt out) and did so anyway?
  23. They're good about knowing when to be aggressive. Brazen aggressiveness is sometimes what fans clamor for, but realize later how foolish it is. But smart, percentage-driven aggression is the best kind of coaching and Doug Pederson certainly gets that.
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