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  1. There were numerous other reports out there saying the Twins were shopping Willingham, but were waiting for the right price, just like the numerous reports that said they were shopping Span and waiting for the right price, the reality is there is no huge rush to trade Willingham at this point anyways, the OF just lost 2 of its 3 starting people this off-season so off the bat plenty of rookies (or near rookies) such as Benson, hicks, Parmelee will get there shot in the OF, if the Twins are out of it (most likely) they will def have Willingham back on the block, my question to you is: would you rather have traded him back then for sub value, or waited until his value went up a bit to get rid of him? FWIW: I don't mind them holding onto him heading into the season, if by some small chance the Twins are able to compete Willingham will be a big reason why. I think it was pretty obvious the Twins were rebuilding when they choose to trade both Span and Revere this off-season for players who for the most part won't be able to help in 2013 (the exception being Worley who arguably wasn't the center piece of that trade anyways) Again I will keep faith in Ryan because he has had a solid track record in the past building teams and because the Twins suddenly have at op farm system in baseball along with a decent core of players at the major league level who have some talent (albeit the ones without a lot of talent are pretty bad!)
  2. I'm not predicting they will win 90 games... I voted and commented on that as an obvious snark/joke.
  3. Nov 9th MLB trade rumors: The Twins might not receive much more than a No. 4 starter in exchange for Josh Willingham, an AL executive tells Phil Mackey of 1500 ESPN Twin Cities Radio. "There's no doubt Josh has a very good contract, but I really doubt a team would trade a viable starting pitcher for a guy with a strong bat but who is limited defensively," the executive said. "It's a lot easier to find a left-field or DH-type than to trade a good starting pitcher for one and then have to backfill the rotation spot." The 33-year-old Willingham is owed $14MM through 2014 and posted an .890 OPS last season, but another AL executive says Denard Span is a better trade chip for Minnesota. Read more at Josh Willingham Rumors: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com
  4. Frame it however you want champ, its still not as dumb as comparing the Twins organization to that of the Pirates or Royals.
  5. It came out that an opposing GM said Willinghams value was that of a back end rotation guy, because most teams (like most of us fans) realized that Willingham was very unlikely to duplicate his excellent 2012 moving forward. Plus the guy has very little defensive value and injury issues. I can try to look up the exact quote later, but it was certainly featured on MLBtraderumors and discussed here at the time I believe. Also FWIW: I think Ryan in his past stint and this off-season has shown how he is at least good at gauging correct value for trade targets, I think most of us are happy with the hauls for Span and certainly Revere, why not at least give him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to trading additional veterans? (Especially when everyone is going to crucify him for everything else)
  6. Fine, 5 division titles in 14 years, still a hell of a lot better then what the Royals and Pirates have done, no? Try to re-fraise/back away from your orginal comment all you want, after you get called out on it. As you said before "the players win", so stick by it champ. And yes it was a ****ing "stupid" comment. I apologize for using the word retarded, it was inappropriate. But it certainly was stupid.
  7. These players are professional players who get paid a lot of money for what they do, yes sometimes you have crappy seasons but I imagine any of the guys signed for longer then this year understand the plan, and even if they don't its in their best personal interest to play as hard as possible to win every game. Need an example? Look no further then the 1990 and 1991 Minnesota Twins, finishing in last place didn't seem to destroy the 91 Twins morale to much, ya know?
  8. They won those division titles with the team he put together through draft/trades etc. Once he left **** started to goto hell, see: Johan trade, Garza trade etc Second your argument that "the players win" is ****ing retarded: So what you are saying is: When the team sucks it's the GMS fault, but when the team is good its the players that win, and the GM has nothing to do with it??
  9. I've known Brock for many years, it was a tongue in cheek "shot" at him if anything. Thanks for jumping from thread to thread to thread to point out one thing I said, it you would also noticed I mentioned (so did someone else) how criticisizing the Twins for not trading Carroll and Willingham (yet) wasn't really warranted, considering they had been shopping Willingham since last season as there have been at least a half dozen reports on such. What is the solution, trade Willingham for a #4 pitcher? What would people say then? On another note however there are sadly a high number of mouth breathers on this site, look no further then the original poster of this gem of a thread.
  10. Nobody is suggesting they are going after the first pick or should be, you can rebuild and not try to be the worst team in baseball FYI. The Pirates and Royals are lazy and stupid examples, the Twins currently have the #2 system in all of baseball (according to Law) and have a GM that won them 5 division titles in 8 years, not to mention they have the payroll flexibility to be one of the top 10-12 teams in the league when it comes to total dollars spent, the Pirates and Royals have had neither of those during their 2 decades of suck. Sure I would have loved the Twins to bring in a better pitcher then Correria and brought in another starter and MI to boot, but in reality this year has always been a rebuilding year, the nice thing is it is very possible the rebuilding process could be very short and we could be competing as soon as 2014.
  11. My issue seems to be jackasses who say "the twins don't care anymore" because they didn't decide to sign a AAA/AAAA player to be their 7th catcher on the 40 man.
  12. Oh the writing is top notch, it's the forum that has suffered. FWIW I don't fault anyone for trying to make a dollar online which is basically what happened, but it doesn't keep the guy that gave up a great forum immune from criticism because he did so.
  13. Sorry if me calling Torri hunter a homo phone hurt your delicate sensibilities or whatever.
  14. Numerous mlbtraderumor posts that stated such, and then stated that the twins couldn't get much in return at the current time for him (I believe one GM was quoted as them only being able to get a back end rotation type back for him, which we certainly don't have enough of currently!)
  15. Are you serious? Have you followed baseball for long? Rebuilding is a part of it, young prospects are going to be hungry to kick ass regardless, not just to "win" but to keep playing for that big contract down the road and even to keep their major league paycheck. The idea that a rebuilding team will teach young prospects to "not win" is simply absurd and has no historical basis to back that up.
  16. Wow Brock, never thought I'd see you join the ranks of the mouth breathers crew on this site but you just gave it a good shot. Carroll has no trade value and is much better then any internal option, they actively shopped Willingham and didn't get any good offers, I wouldn't be shocked if he was traded later this year and plus, the twins can compete in 2014 when he is still under contract. Perkins is still young and could be a big piece moving forward, unless you wanna go out and overpay for a closer when the Twins do compete again. iMO the only terrible decision made this off season was giving Corrieia the 2nd year. But at least that is only 5 mil
  17. It beats rubechat?plus there is a lot of solid discussion and good posters here, it's the bottom 20% that really drags **** down and makes it almost unreadable at times
  18. Oh I am all for idiotic statements, but at least put some flare (or in the case of dankind) mullets and Megadeath t-shirts behind them.
  19. This post is stupid. Please leave.
  20. Nothing more then a PTBNL or cash considerations.
  21. Mauer's contract only gets bad if he suddenly can't stay healthy (def a question) or begins to see his game regress (not really an issue IMO)
  22. Honestly, I wouldn't be so sure about that. Either way though, Butera and 3rd catcher is way towards the bottom of the Twins "issues" moving forward.
  23. Meh, the numbers were off, for some reason I thought he got 1 mil in arbitration (super 2 etc). They certainly aren't obligated to keep him on the roster, but at this point it's pretty clear they value Butera at least a bit, and he certainly isn't worth cutting (and eating the money) for yet another AAAA catcher. Yes, let's give a guy a contract for 700k then cut him before spring training even begins, just so we can bring in another catcher who most likely will never hack it in the major leagues, oh, by the way, we already have what is most likely the best catching duo in all of baseball in Mauer and Doumit.
  24. Feel free to report it then. It is a stupid and inflammatory thread, and other stupid threads like this should not be encouraged.
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