I am not grumpy about the duplication, if that is what you call it, about Plouffe and a possible trade. It is not always easy to find the "first" thread on a topic as there are so many, well, topics on this forum. Writing up to the minute, i.e., thinking about consequences for the Giants given Sandoval's signing with the Red Sox makes sense to me Let's get excited rather than grumpy about some hot stove discussion. Plouffe is a California guy, although I cannot remember from what part of the state he hails from. If the Twins could get a top prospect starting pitcher (someone who pitched no lower than high A ball last season) and a AA or AAA corner outfield prospect, someone with wheels and pop in his bat, then the Twins should consider such a move. Plouffe is one of my favorite Twins players, but teams have to make moves that are going to make them better. I know that Chief regularly criticizes trading a current MLB player for prospects, and I understand his thinking, but I don't think the Twins will compete this coming season for a playoff spot, but I do think that they can start to compete in 2016, and their success will largely depend on their starting pitching (they have bullpen prospects galore, and some young killer bats--they need effective starters, and SF sure does seem to produce a lot of them).