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    What To Do With Logan Forsythe?


    Seth Stohs

    On July 31, the Twins traded popular second baseman Brian Dozier to the Los Angeles Dodgers in a deal that had been in the works for roughly 20 months. In return, the Twins acquired Double-A prospects Luke Raley and Devin Smeltzer. The Dodgers were willing to make the deal but insisted on the Twins taking back second baseman Logan Forsythe, and more important, his salary. Brian Dozier has been a big add for the Dodgers, but Forsythe has returned to his American League form with the Twins.

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    With a 5-for-5 night on Thursday night at Target Field, Logan Forsythe is now 22-for-49, hitting .449/.500/.531 (1.031) with four doubles in his 14 games since joining the Twins. Obviously that is a very small sample. In his 70 games with the Dodgers this year, he had hit just .207/.270/.290 (.560) with ten doubles and two home runs.

    It appears this will be a trade that could be beneficial to both teams. Brian Dozier has also played in 14 games since joining the Dodgers. He is hitting .255/.400/.532 (.932) with four doubles, three homers and 12 RBI (including a walkoff sacrifice fly in extra innings on Wednesday night in LA.

    So what should the Twins do as it relates to Logan Forsythe? There really may be three options.

    Should The Twins Try to Capitalize on Forsythe’s Hot Start by Looking to Trade Him?

    There is just under two weeks before the August trade deadline. The Twins should try to trade him for something. While they aren’t going to find a GM in baseball willing to overlook his past two seasons because of two really good weeks, the Twins clearly want to continue accumulating talent for the future. They won’t get anything resembling a blue-chip prospect for five weeks of Forsythe, but they might find a suitor remaining for the versatile infielder.

    Should The Twins Try to Sign Forsythe Right Now to a Contract for 2018?

    The Twins could decide that Nick Gordon needs more time in AAA next year to continue his development. They may determine that they would like to have a one year stop gap, like Forsythe, to play second base until Gordon is deemed ready. Again, based on his struggles over the last couple of seasons in Los Angeles, and his injuries the last couple of years, he likely is a guy who would get a one-year deal in the neighborhood of $2 million. Derek Falvey and Thad Levine could reach out to Forsythe right now and make him that offer. There would appear to be little reason for Forsythe to accept it, though he could just as easily struggle over the next two or three weeks.

    Should The Twins Sit Back and Let It Play Out?

    Or they could just let it play out. Let Forsythe work to continue gain value the rest of the season as he looks to become a free agent at season’s end. From the Twins perspective, they certainly can see his value, especially on a one year, stop gap type of deal. No matter how strong Forsythe finishes the season, his next contract likely will remain a one-year deal at less than $3-4 million. The financial risk of waiting isn’t huge. The risk of him going to one of the other 29 teams if he becomes a free agent might be a little bigger.

    Truthfully, there isn’t a wrong (or bad) answer in that group. Signing him to a one-year, low-cost deal makes a lot of sense. Forsythe is and has always been a very professional hitter. It’s great to see him playing like he did during much of his time in Tampa. So if the Twins can add another prospect with a chance, that’s not a bad deal for a three week rental. Or the Twins can just let him keep playing and see what happens.

    Following the game, in an interview with FSN's Audra Martin, Forsythe said (regarding his 5-for-5 night), "Sometimes you get lucky."

    Maybe in this case, the Twins got a little bit lucky.

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    Is there a best option in your opinion? Share your thoughts below.

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    Doesn't have to be an actual injury... It could be the possibility of injury. 

     

    If I was Mike Chernoff of the Indians, I'd give my old friend Derek Falvey a call and ask about Forsythe. 

     

    I'd want some IF insurance for the playoffs. Kipnis would have to be considered an injury risk. Forsythe won't dent the farm system to acquire and his presence would probably make Francona happy. 

     

    The A's could use some insurance depth as well. Lowrie and Semien have injury history.

     

    Atlanta could use an upgrade over utility infielder Ryan Flaherty as well.

     

     

     

    As far as being upset because he was traded. I'd guess that he knows why he was traded so he is not taking it personally and if he does take it personally... he has an agent who can explain it to him. 

     

    The Twins have the same chance as anyone else to sign him. Perhaps better because he knows the players and coaches. But it will be his choice for the first time in his 12 year career. 

     

    It's up to the Twins now to show him exactly how much they want him.  :)

    I think the fact that they traded him, uprooted him and his family, negates any good will that they Twins might have with him. I know I'd be PO'd if I was him. 

     

    I think the fact that they traded him, uprooted him and his family, negates any good will that they Twins might have with him. I know I'd be PO'd if I was him. 

     

    I have no idea what his Family arrangements are other than Wikipedia... which states that he owns a home in Miami. For all I know... his family is still in Miami. A lot of Baseball players are merely in a hotel during the season so I'm not sure of the level of uprooting.

     

    I wouldn't be PO'd in the slightest... because that's baseball and I'm already planning on being a Free Agent and would understand that a non-contending team will either get something for me or get nothing for me and every team will take getting something for me over nothing. Besides he gets to join a team that is fighting for a World Series over playing with a team that is playing out the string. Unless he was hoping for that qualifying offer which I kind of doubt that he was hoping for that.  

     

    Like I said... if he took that personally... his agent will explain it to him and if he still takes it personally... then he should have signed an extension... if offered. Which he reportedly was and didn't understandably sign. 

     

    This off-season... Escobar will be looking for a team that is the best combination of money, playing time, location and World Series opportunity. If the Twins are that team... there is no reason to think he won't be back.

     

    The trick is being that team. 

     

    But again... I have no idea what Escobar's personal situation is. 

    I think the fact that they traded him, uprooted him and his family, negates any good will that they Twins might have with him. I know I'd be PO'd if I was him.

    Then again, some players might appreciate the opportunity to play for something besides a draft pick.

    If I were him, I'd be thankful that the Twins gave me that opportunity.

     



    I still don't know why another team would give anything of value for LoFo... But at least the ground work is done just in case.

     

    "LoFo" made me giggle.

     

    But I though about it and decided I like "LoFor" better (pronounced "Loafer").

     

    Like a comfy old shoe I'd wear around the house.

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    I have no idea what his Family arrangements are other than Wikipedia... which states that he owns a home in Miami. For all I know... his family is still in Miami. A lot of Baseball players are merely in a hotel during the season so I'm not sure of the level of uprooting.

     

    I wouldn't be PO'd in the slightest... because that's baseball and I'm already planning on being a Free Agent and would understand that a non-contending team will either get something for me or get nothing for me and every team will take getting something for me over nothing. Besides he gets to join a team that is fighting for a World Series over playing with a team that is playing out the string. Unless he was hoping for that qualifying offer which I kind of doubt that he was hoping for that.  

     

    Like I said... if he took that personally... his agent will explain it to him and if he still takes it personally... then he should have signed an extension... if offered. Which he reportedly was and didn't understandably sign. 

     

    This off-season... Escobar will be looking for a team that is the best combination of money, playing time, location and World Series opportunity. If the Twins are that team... there is no reason to think he won't be back.

     

    The trick is being that team. 

     

    But again... I have no idea what Escobar's personal situation is. 

     

    None of us know if an extension was offered or what Escobars family situation or what his temperament is, all I know is that if it was me that was traded, I'd be PO'd and it would take a serious overpay by the Twins to get me back.  

     

    Which leads back to my original point, which was that I've read numerous times here on TD 'sign Escobar back in the office season',  I don't see it happening.

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    None of us know if an extension was offered or what Escobars family situation or what his temperament is, all I know is that if it was me that was traded, I'd be PO'd and it would take a serious overpay by the Twins to get me back.  

     

    Which leads back to my original point, which was that I've read numerous times here on TD 'sign Escobar back in the office season',  I don't see it happening.

    It was reported that he was offered an extension. Why would a beat writer lie when it's very easy to go to Escobar to confirm it?

     

    I'm sure there are ways where beat guys and others who report on the team try to make the team better than they are, but I have an extremely hard time believing this is one of those times. There's zero benefit for the Twins to lie about it. It would make them look very bad.

    Wasn't a fan of the Forsythe part of the deal, but glad he is on a hot streak for us.  That said, if you are throwing in the towel on the season, then it kind of makes sense to have a younger guy playing there to evaluate.  It seems that by playing Forsythe, we are actually evaluating him.  If that's the case and they don't think that Gordon or anyone else is close, then evaluate for the entire year and then make the decision based on what he looks like for the rest of the year.  There are a number of free agent 2B's at the end of the year that will be available.




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