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    Are Twins' Third Base Plans for Jose Miranda a Misstep?


    Alex Boxwell

    What is best for Jose Miranda’s development? It’s not having him focus on making inadequate tools below average and limiting his power potential.

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    We have a sound bite of the year candidate already. When asked about Jose Miranda recently, Carlos Correa declared, “Oh, he looks sexy.” 

    There is much to be excited about regarding the likely five-hole hitter in the Twins lineup. The big one: the guy flat-out hits. After his early season demotion, Miranda returned and showed everything we expected after his breakout campaign in 2021. He hit for power, drove in runs, handled the bat with two strikes, and, most importantly, he put his struggles in the review mirror quickly. He’s a bat-first prospect starting to cement himself as a run producer in a good lineup. 

    After showing huge upside, it appears the plan inside the organization is to trim him down and move him to third base long-term. I love his skill set at the plate, but I’m not sure this is the best move for Miranda or the Twins.

    Miranda could have graded better as a defender, with well below average arm strength according to baseball savant and below average range. That information is readily available with one google search, what is our logic in limiting his power potential by trimming him down and trying to put a round peg in a square hole..? 

    I’m genuinely asking because I don’t quite get this move, and I don’t understand how many widely accept it. The bat will make Jose great, and sacrificing a potential 30-homer, 100+ RBI guy’s pop to play (likely) bad third base doesn’t jive with me.

    I could get behind Miranda being the stop-gap for the Royce Lewis return or the unlikely Brooks Lee sighting at third on a post-season team. Lee is a great player and will be great for us one day, but a mid-season call ups in a pennant race is hardly a move to rely on. 

    That being said, if Miranda is the stop-gap, why are we trying to make him quicker and more streamlined? I want the focus to be on his development into a true four or five-hitter on any lineup in the big leagues because he’s that good of a run producer. He doesn’t have much swing and miss to his game either, especially by today’s standard, very rare for a run producer. 

    The Miranda move is not as egregious as putting Miguel Sano in right field. That was an actual fish-out-of-water scenario. However, this course of action can dampen what Jose does well and put him in a position where he is not likely to succeed based on the available metrics.

    The unfortunate reality is that if the Twins make no other offensive moves this offseason, which is unlikely, the roster seems a tad unfinished. The man for the job was Gio Urshella. A solid stop-gap for Lewis to rehab or Lee to be inserted when he’s ready rather than making him fit for the team’s timeline and mess with his development/service clock. It’s the one move that isn’t making sense. It’s Derek Falvey’s and Thad Levine’s one sore thumb this off-season that doesn’t quite add up.

    There’s always a plan. All signs point to one or maybe two more moves on the offensive side. One thing I don’t want to see is us limiting Miranda’s offensive ceiling, his calling card as a player, to see him not have success at third base, along with no real future there. He’s a great player, and I hope he stays a Twin for a long time, but he’s a first baseman/DH. 

    If no other moves are made, I hope he proves me wrong, plays replacement-level hot corner, and doesn’t lose any power. Bigger isn’t always better, but slimmer isn’t always quicker. The sexiest thing Jose Miranda can do this year is hit .270+ with 30 homers and 100 RBI, regardless of where he plays or what he looks like.

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    For a dedicated player to get himself in better shape to be considered an organizational thing, or that he was directed to, I find comical. We are not talking Sano or Panda or Prince Fielder here. And since when does loose fat correlate to power more than a thinner but more muscular body? Never. Miranda cares, and is not lazy. It just makes sense for all players to try to be in better shape. They know it. Everybody knows it, unless they are just in denial. Plus, muscle weighs more than fat. One could weigh the same, but replacing the fat with muscle would result in a much leaner looking man.

    11 hours ago, Riverbrian said:

    Absolutely.

    Having too many players is never a problem.

    Every club should strive for having too many players. 

    No club should ever purposely get in the way of not reaching that goal. 

    I KNOW it's slightly off topic, but when I read this, I couldn't help but reflect on the current 40 man roster and many of the top 10-20 prospects and just speculate about the Twins immediate future timeline. 

    Position player wise, there are some givens such as Buxton, Vazquez, Jeffers, Correa, AND Miranda. I LOVE Polanco, but not sure I can make him  "given" right now. While we still have to see better health...doesn't the worm have to turn at some point?...both Larnach and Kirilloff have been TOP prospects for a reason. And they've both looked very good in SSS when on the field. Lewis has already shown how good he might be at ANY position if his "smaller" injury is over and done. Lee looks like the real deal. How can anyone argue that Julien doesn't look like a future ML player? The jury is still out on Wallner and Martin. But the potential of Martin is real...OF and table setter and forget him being a 25+HR hitter for now...and Wallner needs some defensive improvement,  but the bat has the potential to play at the ML level. He showed growth week by week and month by month in 2022. He didn't look out of place in his debut. He's got a chance. And I'm not even going to mention Celestino getting most, or all, of 2023 at AAA to refine his game and get back on track as a possibly good 4th OF offering.

    Position player wise, this team could have a very talented team now, in 2024 and beyond, and cost controlled, even with a few question marks.

    And I'm deliberately ignoring pitching as the OP is about Miranda, and the player roster. 

    I restate, does it matter if Miranda can be a solid 3B and potentially be replaced by Lewis or Lee in the next year or so? No. Hell, someone might be traded. And if not, he can be outstanding as a 3B/1B/DH. That's not a bad thing! Do I want to see Polanco, one of my favorite players, moved? No. But it could happen in the next year or so because of the young talent knocking on the door.

    It's NEVER a bad thing when you appear to have "too much talent".

     

    10 hours ago, DocBauer said:

    I KNOW it's slightly off topic, but when I read this, I couldn't help but reflect on the current 40 man roster and many of the top 10-20 prospects and just speculate about the Twins immediate future timeline. 

    Position player wise, there are some givens such as Buxton, Vazquez, Jeffers, Correa, AND Miranda. I LOVE Polanco, but not sure I can make him  "given" right now. While we still have to see better health...doesn't the worm have to turn at some point?...both Larnach and Kirilloff have been TOP prospects for a reason. And they've both looked very good in SSS when on the field. Lewis has already shown how good he might be at ANY position if his "smaller" injury is over and done. Lee looks like the real deal. How can anyone argue that Julien doesn't look like a future ML player? The jury is still out on Wallner and Martin. But the potential of Martin is real...OF and table setter and forget him being a 25+HR hitter for now...and Wallner needs some defensive improvement,  but the bat has the potential to play at the ML level. He showed growth week by week and month by month in 2022. He didn't look out of place in his debut. He's got a chance. And I'm not even going to mention Celestino getting most, or all, of 2023 at AAA to refine his game and get back on track as a possibly good 4th OF offering.

    Position player wise, this team could have a very talented team now, in 2024 and beyond, and cost controlled, even with a few question marks.

    And I'm deliberately ignoring pitching as the OP is about Miranda, and the player roster. 

    I restate, does it matter if Miranda can be a solid 3B and potentially be replaced by Lewis or Lee in the next year or so? No. Hell, someone might be traded. And if not, he can be outstanding as a 3B/1B/DH. That's not a bad thing! Do I want to see Polanco, one of my favorite players, moved? No. But it could happen in the next year or so because of the young talent knocking on the door.

    It's NEVER a bad thing when you appear to have "too much talent".

     

    Amen to all of that. 

    Young players like Miranda, Kirilloff and Larnach will not become givens with a bowling pin mentality to roster construction. If Miranda struggling at 3B and needing to play 1B knocks Kirilloff over like a bowling pin because playing time becomes this impossible issue. We will severely handicap ourselves reaching too much talent. 

    Those 10 to 20 prospects that you mention will never get here if you can't figure out how to make an adjustment to Miranda or adjustments to the 10 to 20 prospects.  

    We will never get to "Too much talent" if we look at Kepler and Gallo on the same roster and think a trade has to happen because you have too much talent. 

     

    The real question is can he make the necessary adjustments to how pitchers pitched him the last part of the season. Weight or muscle mass will mean nothing if he doesn't. If he does make the adjustments we will have so many other positive things to talk about.




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