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  • How Do The Twins Stack Up Against the Seattle Mariners in the Postseason?


    Ted Schwerzler

    The Minnesota Twins are going to play postseason baseball for the first time since the 2020 season. It will be the first time fans are in attendance since the Bomba Squad existed during 2019. We don’t yet know the opponent, but the Seattle Mariners are among the possibilities.

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    In winning the American League Central Division, the Minnesota Twins will host a wild card team on October 3rd and 4th, with a decisive Game 3 on the 5th, if necessary. They get the advantage of home field in each contest, and they’ll have some level of familiarity with whomever they wind up squaring off against.

    Should the Seattle Mariners come to town, here’s a tail of the tape:

    Record: 81-67
    Against Minnesota: 4-3 (-2 run differential)
    Road: 40-35
    September: 5-10

    The Rotation:
    It should be expected that Mariners manager Scott Servais will put a trio of Luis Castillo, Logan Gilbert, and George Kirby on the mound to start a game. Rookie Bryce Miller could also be in contention for a starting spot.

    Castillo is the known veteran for Seattle, and he has consistently been among the best starters in baseball. Acquired at last year’s deadline for a package that included top prospect Noelvi Marte, the former Cincinnati Reds starter has been every bit as dominant in the American League.

    Both Gilbert and Kirby are still young, but have seen plenty of major league action to bring quality stuff on a nightly basis. Both are strikeout arms, and it’s Kirby that does especially well limiting walks. The Seattle starters as a whole don’t issue free passes, and each of them are hard to build a consistent threat against. Each is somewhat susceptible to the longball, but none of them should be seen as a cakewalk.

    The Bullpen:
    Seattle decided to be sellers at the trade deadline, and the greatest piece they parted with was closer Paul Sewald. Andres Munoz, a hard-throwing righty, has since taken over as the closer. Matt Brash is a former top prospect that has found more success in relief, and his strikeout numbers are certainly noteworthy.

    Veteran Justin Topa has had a breakout season for the Mariners after coming over from the Brewers this season, and while he doesn’t strike many out, he also limits damage well. The notable lefty in relief is Gabe Speier, and he’s not just a soft-tossing southpaw. Servais can mix and match a bullpen group that has high upside.

    The Lineup:
    Obviously the superstar here is youngster Julio Rodriguez. The man known as J-Rod has put up a 30 home run season along with 30 stolen bases and 30 doubles. He’s one of the most talented athletes in baseball, and can do it all both in the batter’s box and in the outfield.

    Beyond Rodriguez, there are some notable power hitters in the lineup. Cal Raleigh, otherwise known as Big Dumper, is a home run threat behind the plate. He has 28 to his credit this season, and Teoscar Hernandez is just behind him with 25 of his own. Former star prospect Jarred Kelenic has flashed at times this season, and J.P. Crawford has been a consistent bat from the shortstop position.

    Aside from Rodriguez, the Mariners lineup is not a standout-based collection. They rank in the top 10 across Major League Baseball in terms of fWAR, but they’re middle-of-the-pack when it comes to wOBA and slugging.

    What to Know:
    The Mariners have seen virtually everything this year. They have led the division and they have been 10.5 games out. They sold at the deadline for a reason, and they came into the year believing the postseason was within their grasp for one as well.

    September has not been kind to Seattle, and playing sub-.500 baseball in the final month is certainly not a good look. On one hand, maybe the Twins should be welcoming a team that has struggled to win when it matters most, but on the other, the Mariners have already gotten it done against Minnesota this season.

    The Mariners will attempt to pitch their way through a series with starters, and they’ll hope that a lineup with capable producers can provide early leads. Avoiding Rodriguez in key spots is a good plan of action, and making others beat you from there is how you’d draw up a game plan.

    How do you feel about the Twins facing the Mariners in the playoffs? Is there a pitcher you’re worries about, or someone in the lineup (aside from Julio) that Minnesota should look to avoid?

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    It could be that I just haven't watched enough Seattle games, but for some reason the Mariners don't frighten me the way other teams do. Yes, they have very good starters, but their lineup seems weak compared to the 1 through 9 depth and power a Rangers or Astros team can put out. Then again, like I said, I haven't watched too many M's games to really dive deep into what they can do. 

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    Mariners have probably the best rotation of the teams MN could face in the first round but not a ton else and outside of the rear they went on in August, they’ve been a disappointment. I feel like they’re going to be the team on the outside looking in, however. 

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    I don't think the Twins will face Seattle in the WC round as after today they have 7 games vs Tex and 3 vs Hou.  If they play well they will be the West Div winner.  If they play poorly they won't make the playoffs.  Of the WC contenders they have the best record after the all star break (38-24), however against playoff contending teams the are 14-15.  The Twins have the second best record after the AS break at 35-26 and are 15-12 against playoff contenders.

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    Not a good matchup for the Twins.  Mariners neutralize the Twins' strength with stronger starting pitching, Rodriguez is a super Lewis, bullpen is slightly better, etc.  (Though Seattle has to be kicking themselves for trading away their closer.)  They're similar to the Twins except slightly better in most if not all areas.  That said, if the postseason was about who's better on paper we wouldn't play the games :)

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    Because of our lineup's propensity to disappear (albeit to a lesser degree in the second half, especially September), I would prefer the Rangers over the Mariners. We've shown we can handle Texas. It looks like that's how things are gonna shake, anyways.

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    16 hours ago, Logi_Clevs said:

    Yes, they have very good starters, but their lineup seems weak compared to the 1 through 9 depth and power a Rangers or Astros team can put out.

    Yeah it's tough cause if we're talking about pitching, Texas is the better opponent for us (easier starters to hit by far) but if we're talking about offenses, Seattle's definitely the easier lineup to shut down.

    Seattle offense: Has had four months of the season (March/April, May, June, September) where they've hit below .240 as a team. Hits a flat .200 in their losses with an OPS of .600, while hitting .279 in wins with an OPS of .849.

    Texas offense: Never hit below .250 in a month, have yet to have a month where their team OPS drops below .765. Hit a smoking .302 in their wins and .220 in their losses, with a .904 OPS in the wins and a .654 in the losses.

     

    Plus we've also gotten a very recent look at Texas and know what their pitchers are bringing and that we're capable of hitting even their best. It's been a little while with Seattle, and that could be a bit of an issue for us.

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    6 hours ago, JoshDungan1 said:

    Yeah it's tough cause if we're talking about pitching, Texas is the better opponent for us (easier starters to hit by far) but if we're talking about offenses, Seattle's definitely the easier lineup to shut down.

    I agree. So are we more comfortable having to win a pitcher's duel against Seattle or a high scoring track meet against Texas?

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    On 9/21/2023 at 9:00 AM, Logi_Clevs said:

    I agree. So are we more comfortable having to win a pitcher's duel against Seattle or a high scoring track meet against Texas?

    I'd rather the track meet tbqh. That's where the better pitching usually wins out. Plus we've shown that we can keep it from becoming much of a track meet against the Rangers, especially with the weather advantage usually slowing down offenses.

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