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    Dreaming Of 200 Home Runs


    Nick Nelson

    With the shift from power hitting toward power pitching that baseball has seen over the past couple decades, it has become quite a bit more rare to see offenses pile up 200 home runs. It was a feat accomplished by 11 teams in 2000 and by only five in 2015.

    To find the last Twins squad that went deep 200 times, you have to go all the way back to 1964, when Harmon Killebrew, Bob Allison and Tony Oliva were leading the way.

    For this year's club it is an unlikely yet not unfeasible possibility.

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    I'll start by saying that, obviously, a lot of things would need to go right for the Twins to reach such a number. Almost every starter in the lineup would need to stay mostly healthy and perform. But if we set fairly reasonable – though in some cases slightly optimistic – home run totals for each projected regular, we can get pretty dang close. Observe:

    Miguel Sano: 35

    Not much of a stretch here. He hit 35 during his last full season in the minors (2013) and launched 33 last year in 146 games between Double-A and the majors.

    Byung Ho Park: 30

    He's coming off back-to-back 50-homer campaigns in Korea, and ZiPS projects him to hit 27 as a rookie. We'll say he catches on quickly and manages to surpass that by a little.

    Brian Dozier: 25

    He has hit 51 over the last two seasons and will be 29.

    Trevor Plouffe: 20

    His 150-game average in four years since becoming a full-time big-leaguer is just a tick above 20, so this is exactly what you'd expect if he stays on the field.

    Eduardo Escobar: 15

    This is the first one that feels like a bit of a reach. There's not much in his long-term track record that would suggest this is realistic (he hit only 19 total in the minors) but Escobar went deep 12 times in 127 games last year and his power is clearly trending upward at age 27.

    Eddie Rosario: 15

    As a rookie he homered 13 times in 122 games while also racking up 15 doubles and 13 triples. It's easy to envision Rosario muscling up a bit at age 24 and pushing a few more over the wall.

    Byron Buxton: 15

    Buxton's power is hard to peg, because almost every scout opines that we really haven't seen what he's capable of, and he's just finally starting to fill out his frame a little bit. Last year he totaled nine homers in 118 games between the minors and majors.

    Joe Mauer: 10

    He hit 10 last year, 11 in 2013 and 10 in 2012.

    Kurt Suzuki: 5

    This is pretty consistently where he has been at in recent years.

    Between these nine starters alone, we already have 170 home runs. That's not accounting for the contributions from backups, fill-ins and call-ups, who figure to produce somewhere around 15-20 and maybe more if someone like Oswaldo Arcia, Kennys Vargas or Daniel Palka plays a more prominent role than expected.

    Admittedly, 200 might be setting the bar too high. But the story is that we can reasonably project two players for 30-plus homers (that has happened twice in the last three decades) and a team total that may very well rank among the top five in franchise history.

    Here's what it would take to break into that rarified category:

    1. 1963: 225 HR

    2. 1964: 221 HR

    3. 1987: 196 HR

    4. 1986: 196 HR

    5. 2004: 191 HR

    6. 1962: 185 HR

    7. 2009: 162 HR

    8. 2002: 167 HR

    9. 1961: 167 HR

    10. 2001: 164 HR

    Even by conservative estimates, this year's offense should end up being the second-most powerful that the Twins have fielded since '87, and it's not tough to imagine this group surpassing that '04 club fueled by the likes of Corey Koskie, Jacque Jones, Torii Hunter and Justin Morneau.

    The 2009, 2004 and 2002 teams were all division-winners, and in the case of '09 they did it without a particularly strong pitching staff, so you can certainly make the argument that this is a sensible approach for a team with question marks at the front of the rotation and in the bullpen.

    How many long balls do you predict the Twins will hit this year?

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    Almost as important is this team being more than capable of 300 doubles, and possibly 350.

     

    When you break everything down, the projections of 200 HR, or close to it, seems to make logical sense. However, practicality would seem to state that too much has to go according to plan for that to happen.

     

    I absolutely believe Sano can jack 30+ and probably even 35. I absolutely believe on his frame, production in Korea, previous scouting reports, and recent reports from Ft Meyers that Park has legitimate ML 30 HR power. I just don't expect it his first year. Just too much everything everywhere to adjust to to expect that.

     

    Dozier and Plouffe SHOULD each have 20+. I believe Rosario capable of 20, at some point anyway, but believe he's more of a consistent 15-18 HR guy. Mauer and Arcia are each capable but also big question marks as well. I soooo badly want to argue Escobar just can't be expected to jack 15. And then I look at what he's done the last two seasons...not even getting to be the starter from day one...and I soooo badly want to believe he could do it.

     

    But really, at the end of the day, I think this is a legitimate 175-180 HR ball club. And with the amount of doubles they are capable of producing, and any kind of OB% improvement so that runners are on board, I'm really, really happy with that number.

    I'm including 35 HR (avg. per 162 game season) guy who is on 40 man roster.

     

    I know the 135 rbi per 162 game average is dependent on teammates and the 100 runs scored per 162 game average is dependent on teammates, but damn,  those numbers with the 35 home runs per season average really sound good to me.  

     

    In the thought process of Allen Iverson: We're talking strikeouts?  We're talking strikeouts?  We're not talking production?  We're talking strikeouts?  Lol

     

    From Spring Training 2014

     

    "He's a beast," Twins assistant general manager Rob Antony said of Walker, who is 6-4, 223 pounds and a third-round pick in 2012 out of Jacksonville University.

     

    "If it were any other year," Antony said, noting the presence of Buxton and Sano, "he would have been our minor league player of the year."

     

     

     

     

    Edited by GMinTraining

    It is interesting how the Twins have collected so many power bats. I can't wait to see how it works out. I believe Parker had an article about the Twins maybe finding a market inefficiency there. Perhaps he was on to something. In the era of power hitters the Twins had good defense and the piranhas. Now in the era of WAR, OBP,  and defense the Twins have power hitters.

    Not sure where the pitching will come from though.....

    Edited by dgwills

    For me the most exciting thing about this discussion isn't whether or not the team actually hits 200 homers, it's the thought we are actually seriously having the discussion. 

     

    It's been a long time since I took part in a discussion of Twins power that wasn't lack there of.  And the prospect of hitting 200 homers?  I don't think I've had that conversation before the start of a season ever.

     

    I'm so stoked for this season to finally get started.

     

    Is it opening day yet?

     

    Eduardo Escobar: 15

    This is the first one that feels like a bit of a reach. There's not much in his long-term track record that would suggest this is realistic (he hit only 19 total in the minors) but Escobar went deep 12 times in 127 games last year and his power is clearly trending upward at age 27.

     

    To be fair to you, I don't think you are over reaching at all with Escobar and the answer is in your post. He hit 12HR's last year in 127 games and he is trending upward in HR's. We are only talking about a difference of 3 HR's, which he could have hit last year if he played more games / had more at bats. It won't surprise me if he's a double digit HR guy again in 2016. Also, it won't surprise me if he hits 15 HR's in 2016.

     

    If anything, perhaps Buxton and Park might be riskier guesses for the simple fact that their HR numbers are currently unproven at the MLB level.

     

    How many home runs can Buxton hit if he only bats .215?

    Less than if he was hitting .315.

     

    Is that supposed to be a rhetorical question?

     

    Buxton really hasn't established his bat at the MLB level yet, so we don't know how many HR's he's capable of hitting at the MLB level. However, looking at his stats, he hasn't hit too many HR's in the minor's. He appears to be the type of player that's going to get on base and use his speed to his advantage instead of a guy who's going to hit a lot of home runs, which is okay with me.

     

    Also, I agree that he may hit a few more HR's as he gets older and fills out more. I'm just seeing the 15 HR prediction as being a lot more optimistic in 2016 than Escobar hitting 15 HR's in 2016 based on the facts that we currently have.

    Edited by Reider

     

    How many home runs can Buxton hit if he only bats .215?

    I find it extremely unlikely Buxton hits .215 this season.

     

    I don't understand the consternation over Byron's 2015 season. 21 years old, fighting off minor injuries, facing MLB pitching for the first time. In September when he was finally healthy again, he posted slightly better numbers with an OPS around .650.

     

    With his speed, tools, discipline, and a bit more experience under his belt, I'd be surprised if Buxton doesn't post something close to league average offensive numbers this season.

     

    How many home runs can Buxton hit if he only bats .215?

     

     

    Less than if he was hitting .315.

     

    Is that supposed to be a rhetorical question?

     

    Keep in mind the thread is titled "Dreaming of 200 Home Runs". It doesn't harm anyone to be a little overly optimistic. But even if he hits only 5 Sano's 40, Plouffe's 30 and Arcia's 30 will make up for it. :)




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