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Posted
Just now, S Bart said:

Who then...

Lee? Might have been Jeffers but for the injury then the terrible last month.

Posted
1 minute ago, djvang said:

Keaschall is not a rookie. Played 49 games with 182 AB last year. Threshhold is 45 games or 120 AB.

I am trying to think of one. .many newbies.. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Western SD Fan said:

Didn't forget about you.  Just trying to figure out who was still a rookie.  I almost have to consider Andrew Morris or Prielipp.  Culpepper is hurt.  Jenkins and Emma just got here.  There really aren't any other rookies.

 Prielipp--  by a mile

Posted
4 minutes ago, Western SD Fan said:

Didn't forget about you.  Just trying to figure out who was still a rookie.  I almost have to consider Andrew Morris or Prielipp.  Culpepper is hurt.  Jenkins and Emma just got here.  There really aren't any other rookies.

Agree

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Posted
6 minutes ago, HarmonK03 said:

I think there is some recency bias to Taj as MVP based on start last night.  The start before he was not getting favorable comments.  He has been more consistent than in the past but still needs to show more to go to the next level.  It still feels like he lacks some of the mental toughness needed, the Field of Dreams game was a great example where he laid an egg in a big spotlight.

He has had a good season, but I would not consider it MVP, if so, it's more a reflection of the team than Taj.

Your complaint should be addressed to whoever calculated 4.3 WAR for Taj and 2.7 WAR for Brooks.

Posted
4 minutes ago, Patzky said:

Lee? Might have been Jeffers but for the injury then the terrible last month.

Looking at the stays and games played..these are the 4 possibilities...Lee, Clemens, Keasch, and possibly Bell as the DH...not sure about that one.  ...Taj...hands down the pitcher of the year...agree with Priellep as rookie..

Posted

Taj MVP for sure. Lee started the season as a dreadful SS and cost the team runs. Clemens was way too streaky. Buck hurt half the season again. 

Posted
9 minutes ago, S Bart said:

Who then...

I would probably go with Keaschall or Lee, they have been the most consistent producers.  I really think Buck does deserve some consideration only because we were truly in it when he was still in the lineup.  But you have to be available and he wasn't down the stretch run plus.

Posted
Just now, SE23 said:

Jeffers is slumping big time

Regardless...he will get a big raise next year...his hitting and defense in a catcher position  will make him valuable

Posted
5 minutes ago, SE23 said:

Your complaint should be addressed to whoever calculated 4.3 WAR for Taj and 2.7 WAR for Brooks.

You asked for an explanation and I provided it.  

Posted
7 minutes ago, mrmpls said:

 Prielipp--  by a mile

I understand the metrics support Prielipp.  I could make an argument for Morris because he has been the second most used reliever in the bullpen, only trailing Taylor Rogers 😱, which I would expect him to pass before the end of the year.  For a stretch during the season, he was the most dependable reliever in the bullpen, even collecting 4 saves so far, which is second on the team.  If we bake in the metric that availability is the best ability, Morris has been there all season.  Prielipp has had to take turns on the IL.  All of that to say you're probably not wrong, just that it may be closer than you're giving it credit for.

Posted

Now I am trying to predict who will be departing..? Jeffers, Bell, Minter, Lewis, Ryan...Larnach...all possibilities..some more than others. And rogers

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Posted
3 minutes ago, HarmonK03 said:

You asked for an explanation and I provided it.  

Well, you blamed recency bias for Taj getting positive comments after last night. In reality, he has earned almost twice as much WAR as his closest teammate. That's a measure of the productivity in entire season.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Western SD Fan said:

I understand the metrics support Prielipp.  I could make an argument for Morris because he has been the second most used reliever in the bullpen, only trailing Taylor Rogers 😱, which I would expect him to pass before the end of the year.  For a stretch during the season, he was the most dependable reliever in the bullpen, even collecting 4 saves so far, which is second on the team.  If we bake in the metric that availability is the best ability, Morris has been there all season.  Prielipp has had to take turns on the IL.  All of that to say you're probably not wrong, just that it may be closer than you're giving it credit for.

I agree that morris has done well...few recent bad outings

Posted
5 minutes ago, S Bart said:

Regardless...he will get a big raise next year...his hitting and defense in a catcher position  will make him valuable

and defense in a catcher position  will make him valuable---  Laugh of the day !

Posted
2 minutes ago, S Bart said:

Now I am trying to predict who will be departing..? Jeffers, Bell, Minter, Lewis, Ryan...Larnach...all possibilities..some more than others. And rogers

I don't think they have the guts to dump Lewis. And they wouldn't get much for him anyway.  I'd like to see Minter back but will probably be too expensive. 

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