greengoblinrulz Provisional Member Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 Today on ESPN 1500, Jeff Dubay has been arguing that the Twins closer is top 5 & is astonished he was only added to all star game as an injury replacement to Jessie Crain. He is very solid but without a full yr as a closer & finishing for one of MLB worst teams doesn't do it for me.Where do you rank him?? I haveRiveraKimbrellChapmanNathanSorianoPapelbonBalfourPromoAhead of Glen but arguableGrill IFrieriJohnsonRodney
Nick Nelson Site Manager Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 Looking at his numbers, I don't think you can really make an argument that he's not elite. If the Twins were a better team he'd probably be in the discussion for tops in the game.
JB_Iowa Verified Member Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 I don't know how you decide. There's both the longevity question and also the "losing team question." Is the pressure the same closing for a team going nowhere as it is for a contender? (Honestly I don't know the answer to that - in some ways you could argue that it is more because they don't get as many opportunities but I still think there must be added pressure when you are really in a race.)Perkins is very good. I just don't think that there's enough evidence to decide whether he is top 5.
Danchat Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 If he can continue his stat line for the next 2 years, then I'll believe it. He's only been the closer for about a full year now.
greengoblinrulz Provisional Member Posted July 8, 2013 Author Posted July 8, 2013 I'm a huge believer in him but he just haant had the time in as well as closing any games that matter
Jeff P Verified Member Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 If the All Star teams were truly just chosen on current year performance, then he would have a great argument that Perkins should be in no matter what. To say that Perkins is top 5 muddies the waters a bit because of the longevity question. The other point is that there are a lot of great closers so somewhat like defining an "ace" it gets tough to draw the line. Among the list above there are a bunch of guys who I think are pretty close.
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