Article: The Cuts Continue, 7 Twins Reassigned

[Mr. Brooks]

My understanding is that Colabello is a decent fielder. Unfortunately, it's at the one position where we have incredible depth of options.

 

If he could cover both corner OF spots and/or 3B, his chances would be upped considerably.

 

Heck, if Mourneau got hurt or traded, a Parmelee/Colabello platoon at 1B would be pretty interesting.

 

 

So basically, my point is that offensively, he'd be one of the best right handed bats we've had in half a decade. Defensively, he probably isn't any worse than some of previous bench guys, he just happens to specialize in an area where we aren't lacking for depth

 

The guy has never had a MLB at bat.

What would you think if I were to say, "It's safe to say that Sano is going to be the best power hitter we've had in decades."?

[spideyo]

It's really all about context. Ultimately, it's really about the fact that we've basically had **** for right-handed bench bats over the last 5 years.

I'm not saying he's gonna win a batting title or anything. Just that the fact that he's 29 and hasn't played AAA or MLB yet don't immediately mean he's a washed up piece of crap.

 

And yes, he hasn't had an at bat in an official MLB game, but at least some of the pitchers he's been facing in ST and in the WBC ARE major league pitchers.

 

 

Also, I think a lot of people would argue that Butera has never had an MLB-quality at bat

[Mr. Brooks]

It's really all about context. Ultimately, it's really about the fact that we've basically had **** for right-handed bench bats over the last 5 years.

I'm not saying he's gonna win a batting title or anything. Just that the fact that he's 29 and hasn't played AAA or MLB yet don't immediately mean he's a washed up piece of crap.

 

And yes, he hasn't had an at bat in an official MLB game, but at least some of the pitchers he's been facing in ST and in the WBC ARE major league pitchers.

 

 

Also, I think a lot of people would argue that Butera has never had an MLB-quality at bat

 

I'm not saying he's a washed up piece of crap.

I'm saying lets actually see him get some real (ST and/or WBC do not count) MLB AB's, before we start making declarative statements about how he will hit.

He could be the best RH bench bat we've had in a while, or he could be a right handed Clete Thomas, minus any defensive or baserunning value. Neither would shock me more than the other.

[Laroosh1]

If I recall correctly last year when the twins signed Colabello it was noted that he played third base in independent ball. If that is the case he is more valuable then people think he is. He will get his time in the bigs and he will produce. There will be a lot of band wagon people who will say why didn't they have him play from opening day.

[Mr. Brooks]

If I recall correctly last year when the twins signed Colabello it was noted that he played third base in independent ball. If that is the case he is more valuable then people think he is. He will get his time in the bigs and he will produce. There will be a lot of band wagon people who will say why didn't they have him play from opening day.

 

He made 41 errors in 115 games at 3B. I doubt anyone is putting him at 3rd in a major league game.

I find it interesting that there are people who can make absolute, declarative statements about a guy who has yet to play a MLB game.

[ashbury]

I'm saying lets actually see him get some real (ST and/or WBC do not count) MLB AB's, before we start making declarative statements about how he will hit.

 

Someone's going to make declarative statements about all the players who don't make the final roster - that's how these decisions get made. Granted, "we" won't be making those statements, but if that's your point, just about 99% of the forum threads here could face the same criticism.

[Mr. Brooks]

Someone's going to make declarative statements about all the players who don't make the final roster - that's how these decisions get made. Granted, "we" won't be making those statements, but if that's your point, just about 99% of the forum threads here could face the same criticism.

 

I disagree. Most people in these threads say things like, "I dont think this guy can do x, and here is why..."

Or, "I really think player x is going to have a great year, and here is why."

Those are opinions, which is what this is all about.

Saying something like, "Its safe to say that Cobello IS going to be the best RH bat we've had in years", or "he's gonna play, and he's gonna produce" is a completely different thing.

Unless a person has a crystal ball, I just dont know how any of us can make statements like that about anyone, much less someone who has never played an MLB game before.

[ashbury]

Unless a person has a crystal ball, I just dont know how any of us can make statements like that about anyone, much less someone who has never played an MLB game before.

 

What I'm reacting to is that early in the thread you said that bringing Colabello north would be a novelty act on a par with the Saint Paul Saints. And then near the end of this thread you say "lets actually see him get some real (ST and/or WBC do not count) MLB AB's, before we start making declarative statements about how he will hit." Can't do that if he's cut. And you have to make some guess about how someone will hit before he ever gets his first chance at some MLB ABs.

[Mr. Brooks]

What I'm reacting to is that early in the thread you said that bringing Colabello north would be a novelty act on a par with the Saint Paul Saints. And then near the end of this thread you say "lets actually see him get some real (ST and/or WBC do not count) MLB AB's, before we start making declarative statements about how he will hit." Can't do that if he's cut. And you have to make some guess about how someone will hit before he ever gets his first chance at some MLB ABs.

 

What I'm saying is that based on his age, position, and AA numbers, I dont think he's one of the 25 best guys on the team.

My "novelty" statement was based on the idea of bringing him north because, "he would be a nice feel good story".

If you are bringing a guy north not because he's one of your 25 best players, but because he's a feel good story, that IS a novelty.

If you were to continue to read my posts on this topic you would notice that I say that if they think that he IS one of the 25 best players, then by all means take him north. That's not a novelty.

[spideyo]

Yeah what ashburyjohn said. Colabello has actual skills, so if they did add him to the major league roster, it wouldn't be as a novelty act or a "feel good" story.

 

Also, if you go back to my original post, I originally had said you could ARGUE that he would be our best Right-handed bench bat. After that I may have gone overboard with my statements in my attempts to defend myself, but my original intent wasn't to anoint him, but simply point out that based on potential and small sample size alone, he looks pretty darn good when you set him against the bench options Gardy has had in the past.

[Mr. Brooks]

Yeah what ashburyjohn said. Colabello has actual skills, so if they did add him to the major league roster, it wouldn't be as a novelty act or a "feel good" story.

 

Also, if you go back to my original post, I originally had said you could ARGUE that he would be our best Right-handed bench bat. After that I may have gone overboard with my statements in my attempts to defend myself, but my original intent wasn't to anoint him, but simply point out that based on potential and small sample size alone, he looks pretty darn good when you set him against the bench options Gardy has had in the past.

 

Well everyone in professional baseball has some kind of actual skills. They wouldnt get paid to play baseball if they didnt.

There is nothing in his AA numbers last year that impresses me, given his age and position, thats all i'm saying.

I have already said that its not a novelty if they bring him north for the right reasons. My original "novelty" statement was in regards to a couple of posters who said it would be a feel good story if he were brought north. After that it kind of went of the rails a bit, and I think some people have been led to believe that I feel bringing him north for any reason is a "novelty", which is not the case.

[Halsey Hall]

Things looking better for Hicks with Benson being optioned today to AAA. I'm liking it.