greengoblinrulz Provisional Member Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 ESPN current park numbers cite as of today, Target field IS6th in runs scored 19th in HRs 2nd in hits per1st in doubles 2nd in triples
Jeff P Verified Member Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Amazing what horrible pitching from the home team will do for a park's offensive statistics! Home runs is the statistic that is most park dependent, I wonder how it ranks adjusting for Twins pitching. Jeff
greengoblinrulz Provisional Member Posted May 10, 2012 Author Posted May 10, 2012 My take is if the visiting team is able to juice the ball here, no reason for the excuse making Twins to use the excuse.
Cody Christie Twins Daily Contributor Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 I wonder how the Twins would do batting against their own pitching staff?
NorthwestTwinsFan Provisional Member Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 I wonder how the Twins would do batting against their own pitching staff?That would be an interesting matchup. They would probably still just hit comebackers to the mound though.
Alex Verified Member Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Amazing what horrible pitching from the home team will do for a park's offensive statistics! Home runs is the statistic that is most park dependent, I wonder how it ranks adjusting for Twins pitching. Jeff Or the lack of power in the Twins lineup? Both have to be accounted for and comparisons need to be made between how hitters perform there as well as at home (edit: and it appears they do). Willingham, for instance has almost all his HR at Target Field if I remember correctly. Point is, though I'll have to check how ESPN does it's calculations, any park at which the Twins take half the at bats, it's going to be low....
snepp Verified Member Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Having a poor offense hit in a park won't necessarily drive a park factor down because they'll tend to hit poorly everywhere. The relationship between home and away production is the driving force, not the quality of the pitching/hitting. Sample size is definitely a problem, even a full season isn't very good. 30 games? Pretty much useless.
Nick Nelson Site Manager Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Having a poor offense hit in a park won't necessarily drive a park factor down because they'll tend to hit poorly everywhere. The relationship between home and away production is the driving force, not the quality of the pitching/hitting. Sample size is definitely a problem, even a full season isn't very good. 30 games? Pretty much useless.Snepp! Hadn't noticed you around here before. Welcome!
CharacterGroove Verified Member Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Seems about right. There have been some pretty good hitting teams in the park versus some very marginal pitching.
powrwrap Verified Member Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 They would probably still just hit comebackers to the mound though.Otherwise known as Revere-ing.
StormJH1 Verified Member Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Amazing what horrible pitching from the home team will do for a park's offensive statistics! Home runs is the statistic that is most park dependent, I wonder how it ranks adjusting for Twins pitching. Ha. Very true point (and one that always irks me about "park" factors). They should really only figure in visiting teams, and then compare it against other parks in that league. (There are probably stats that do this). But while the Twins' pitching has been horrible, so has the Twins' offense, for the most part. So while are pitchers are serving it up for other hitters, our batters are also deflating those numbers because we have Carroll instead of Cano, Valencia instead of Freese, and Mauer instead of Wieters (ouch). Also, the Twins are no longer a "left handed" team from a power standpoint, and I don't perceive this park being trouble for RH power hitters at all. Willingham certainly isn't struggling with it. And many of those early season numbers are suppressed by the cold, but we've had very good conditions in April and early May so far.
snepp Verified Member Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Snepp! Hadn't noticed you around here before. Welcome!I've been running in stealth mode (aka, trying to avoid arguments).
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