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Article: Why Not Wieters?
nicksaviking replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
No illusions here. There's one good well-rounded catcher in the league and the Giants aren't selling. The difference between the rest isn't that big and becomes nearly negligible once you get past the top five or so. Not everyone gets a stud catcher, it sucks. The other 29 teams will have to figure out other ways to win. -
Article: Why Not Wieters?
nicksaviking replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Well for one thing, healthy seasons on the wrong side of 30 aren't a given, and four in a row are going to take some luck. My main point was that his defense could be replicated or even better, which seemed to be your sole argument for signing him instead of Pierzynski. My underlying point was that his offense wasn't so far above average that other free agent catchers will have no chance at matching it. -
Article: Why Not Wieters?
nicksaviking replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Dioner Navarro is better defensively and Geovany Soto is comparable. Odds are that he'd be better than both offensively, but it's not even close to a sure thing, they've both had seasons as good or better than Wieters offensively. I sure don't think he's 4 years, 60 million and a draft pick better than them. -
Article: Why Not Wieters?
nicksaviking replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Wieters has been fine offensively, but not better than Pierzynski and his career offensively is pretty similar to Chris Iannetta. Defensively Dioner Navarro is in the same ballpark and Geovany Soto isn't much of a step back. No argument that Wieters is the best all around catcher available, but there's no way he's 60M and 4 years better than any of the other options. And it's really that 4+ years that most concerns me. And the pick. -
Article: Why Not Wieters?
nicksaviking replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I'm OK with that. I'm not typically risk adverse, but the Twins just have too many terrible contracts at the moment. If they can't pawn them off on other teams, they really need to wait until they expire to start handing out more questionable long term deals to vets. I want a good catcher too, but it's not worth hamstringing the future over; offensive catchers are not a necessity. -
Article: More Morneau? No.
nicksaviking replied to John Bonnes's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Even if it was a good move for the Twins, and I don't think it is, is it a good move for Morneau? Both he and Kubel were critical of Target Field for left-handed hitters. Only 20 of his 58 HR during the Target Field years came at home. Whether recent statistics show this as a fluke or not probably isn't relevant if Morneau thinks that high RF wall is a detriment to his line-drive swing.- 33 replies
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I'm not doubting Jay can be converted to a starter, I just wonder what kind of starter he could be. If he doesn't miss bets due to reduced velocity, he'll just be another guy. He wasn't the guy I would have picked, but no one in the draft excited me much, even the top 3 SS.
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Article: More Morneau? No.
nicksaviking replied to John Bonnes's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I am a sentimental guy. Still no. Seeing the veteran Hunter on the roster last July and knowing he couldn't be moved was troubling. As much as I like seeing favorites from the past, the smart business decision is to sign free agents that can get you something back if the season goes in the crapper or you're unexpectedly overloaded at a position. No more legacy signings, as much as I might enjoy seeing them again.- 33 replies
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Coming into the draft Stewart was touted as having a Texas strong upper 90's fastball. I thought I was hearing this year it was 93-95, but this sounds like it's not even that high.
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Article: Ryan On Suzuki: He Took The Post
nicksaviking replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Slightly off topic, but I wanted to see where Zuke ranked in terms of games caught and not surprisingly he played in 131 games, which ranked him 7th out of all the catchers. Only 8 of those games did he come in as a substitute as well. Yet somehow he only managed 479 PA (471 as a starter) which is still 23 PA from being a qualified batter. -
Surely height could be an advantage and just like most athletes who don't ride horses for a living, the rule of thumb is the bigger the better. I can't imagine height could ever trump velocity, movement and control though. I'd have to think that there are plenty of things a shorter pitcher can do to regain the slight disadvantage of losing out on height, like having a longer stride causing a release closer to the plate, having the ability to change arm slots or throwing the ball from an angle that takes longer for the batter to pick up out of the pitchers hand.
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I also think the "downward plane" need is overblown. If it was so devastatingly important, would anyone throw from the pretty standard 3/4 delivery? Heck, what about a side-armer.
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Awful, they've drafted and developed two in the organization's entire run in Minnesota. It still needs to happen though. To be clear, I'm not against supplementing the homegrown talent with difference makers from the outside, in 1987 they brought back Blyleven and in 1991 they got Morris. However the Twins already did this with this club with Nolasco, Hughes and Santana, unfortunately it doesn't look like it was enough. Can't keep doubling down on these bad contracts, at some point they have to try a different approach.
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I'm not saying it's a quick fix, but I can't believe creating your own ace(s) organically is only based on luck. I don't think buying one is easy though either. Forget about the ramifications of sticking a fourth 30+ year old pitcher in the rotation, how could the Twins convince Greinke to pass up the Dodgers, Yankees, Angels, Red Sox or Cubs and come to Minnesota? The Twins would have to pay a lot more money, or worse, more years. Teams not in big markets have to make their own, otherwise they'll have to be satisfied with calling middle of the road starters like Nolasco, Hughes or Santana an ace and live with it. I'd consider a trade however if the Mets could be convinced to part with one of their aces.
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I think you need an ace or five, but I don't think you chase them. The team simply has to start making their own. If they continually fail at this task that most other teams have not failed at nearly as often, wholesale changes need to be made. Developing strikeout generating horses is one of the biggest keys to this whole game. I also think we're getting awfully close to trying to buy our way out of a rebuild, which is going to really hurt a sustained run of success.
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I think he's taking lessons from 6' 10" Chris Young.
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Article: Seth's Preliminary Top 50: Part 1 (41-50)
nicksaviking replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I think Michael is almost certainly going to make the big leagues even if only because of the fact that he was a 1st round pick. Only three college players drafted ahead of him have yet to hit the majors and two of those almost certainly would have by now if not for injury. As a utility infielder with good on-base skills and the pedigree of a 1st round pick, there's a pretty good chance he'll get picked in the Rule V. If the Twins protect him and put him on the 40-man, they almost certainly will give him a call at some point.- 40 replies
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Article: Myth: Starting Pitcher Velocity
nicksaviking replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I wish I knew more about mechanics, most of my knowledge is anecdotal and rehashing what I have heard smarter people say. But if it is something the Twins are doing, I'd have to think it's the reduced stride to the plate; the typical Twins stride certainly appears to be pretty minimal. IF (still just speculation) the Twins coach the stride out of pitchers I wonder what the reason is. Is it believed to improve control? Do they believe it keeps pitchers healthier? Or is it simply a more effective way of limiting the leads of base runners? And again, I don't think a reduced velocity or strikeout rate is the intention of the club, if there is a causation related to a Twins philosophy, it is almost surely just a side effect not the actual objective.- 64 replies
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Article: Myth: Starting Pitcher Velocity
nicksaviking replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I agree they did, but I'm not holding it against them anymore as I think they changed, at least when it comes to the draft. But I am curious, Ryan has said many times that Deron Johnson and the scouts are really the ones who run the draft, and lately they have been getting harder throwing guys (the results can be a different topic of discussion) yet in free agency, the Twins still seem to favor the control guys. It also seems that many guys who were drafted with high 90's heat or projections for high 90's heat have now fallen to low to mid-90's guys. I don't think this is entirely unique to the Twins, and some of that could be due to age, as pitchers seem to lose velocity pretty early into their careers these days, but I wonder if there is any kind of disconnect between what the scouting department covets in a pitcher and what those that develop them ultimately want to see from them. To clarify, I don't mean to ask if those who are developing pitchers want to get rid of strikeouts for PTC because I don't think they do, I more wonder if a strong focus on mechanics or asking guys not to throw max effort may impact college or projected velocity compared to what we see in the minors. Or maybe I'm just mus-remembering pre-draft velocity reports entirely.- 64 replies
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Article: Myth: Starting Pitcher Velocity
nicksaviking replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I'd prefer the higher velocity, as noted several times including in Seth's OP, it allows for a larger margin of error. However, watching games, it seems to me most pitchers get their strikeouts on breaking balls. Kyle Gibson has fine velocity, but he relies on his sinker quite a bit, and sinkerball pitchers don't tend to get a lot of strikeouts. Funny thing is that Fangraphs rates Gibson's slider and changeup as easily his best pitches, it would be nice to see him whip those out more in two strike counts and see if the results change.- 64 replies
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Article: Myth: Starting Pitcher Velocity
nicksaviking replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I agree that the Twins philosophy on over-emphasizing control was a huge issue, however I think that changed after the 2010 draft. Hudson Boyd was a high schooler who was supposed to have an electric arm, same with Stewart and Berrios has all kinds of ceiling. I was never more disappointed in the draft as when the Twins picked Wimmers over a half dozen HS arms with tons of upside, but they've drafted 3 HS arms in the 1st round since and even if the philosophy hasn't paid off, they have been going after high velocity/strikeout guys in the past several drafts. Now whether or not they know what they're doing with the high velocity arms is a different story. Their ability to scout and develop pitchers surely is fair game.- 64 replies
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Article: Myth: Starting Pitcher Velocity
nicksaviking replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
It's not the velocity that is missing from the Twins rotation, it's the strikeouts. Too often I tie the two together, and while there is a strong correlation with velocity and strikeouts, there are high velocity guys who don't miss bats and low velocity of guys who do. So I'm fine refraining from asking this team to sign high velocity guys, just so long as they start getting high strikeout guys.- 64 replies
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Article: Game Thread: Royals@Twins 10/2 7:10PM
nicksaviking replied to Riverbrian's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Not sure there was much retro there. I certainly spect'd at the time. -
Article: Game Thread: Royals@Twins 10/2 7:10PM
nicksaviking replied to Riverbrian's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I wonder why they didn't go to Cotts if they needed a lefty. -
Article: Game Thread: Royals@Twins 10/2 7:10PM
nicksaviking replied to Riverbrian's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Seems like a peculiar pitching change. I thought Santana was in a groove and simply gave up a lucky lob shot.

