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I agree that it can’t be everyone, but when have the Twins gone after high priced free agents period? I can’t think of one prior to this current front office. Darvish was the first. Now you can say that TR kept things close to the vest, but word NEVER got out about TR going after a top FA. Not even once that I recall. I’m guessing because he never went after them at all. I don’t think this “no one wants to come here” applies to the 90s and 2000s because I don’t think the Twins even tried for those players. Matt Holliday? Nope. Cliff Lee? Nope. Adrian Beltré? Nope. John Lackey? Nope. Mark Teixeira? Nope. Sabathia? Nope. A-Rod? Nope. And on and on. The Twins were never in on anyone above a Nolasco level prior to this front office. To me, that was the issue back then...not even trying.

4/100 max, but I’m hoping for 3/60 or 4/80 instead.

There are no Home Alone movies after Home Alone 2. Fact.

I remember the rumors that he’d probably be traded. I was meh about it. Preferred to not trade for him. Then we trade the fifth or sixth best SS prospect (or whatever it was, wasn’t top three) for him. I was all for it then. A number 3/4 for that? I’d do that every time. Odorizzi has been better than expected, at least my expectations. The Twins need to keep finding ways to do this (and more hopefully).

I’ve never had any expectations that Bumgarner will ever be more than a three from now on. I said that when people wanted to trade for him during the deadline. We all would obviously want him to be better than that, but it’s probably not likely. I prefer Ryu (I actually prefer both Ryu AND Bumgarner), but Bumgarner would be an improvement on having two rookies in the rotation. Sign one. Sign both. Don’t strike out on both unless that means you nabbed Cole or Strasburg instead.

7/280, but if he’d say 8/300 I’d say okay.

I think they are at around 65 million before paying the arb guys. I agree they should go after Stras but I don’t think it happens.

The Tigers don’t have any “big name” pitchers. That being said, I wouldn’t mind Boyd. I’d have a hard time giving up Larnach though. I like him just as much as Kirilloff. I’d give him up for someone better than Boyd though. Who that could be, I don’t know, and the hypothetical better pitcher probably isn’t available.

135 seems reasonable due to all of their needs. Hopefully higher due to Cole or Stras.

Both, but if only one then Wheeler.

Stras already opted out. There was a deadline of a few days after the WS.

Buy out. It’s what the Twins did to Perez. If they had picked up the team option on Perez he would have been paid 7.5M to stay on the team. If they chose to not keep Perez, which they did, the player gets an agreed on amount that was made when the contract was first signed. They bought him out for 500K, essentially paying him that to go away.

The player is the one who can opt out. Never the team.

I’m fine with all of these scenarios. Falvey/Levine have said they prefer to not give opt outs though. I think they refused to give one to Darvish.

I was never interested in Teheran previously as a trade option but as a FA signing I’d be fine with it. He would have to be the third or fourth best SP the Twins signed for the rotation though.

Should be. Plus there’s no 60 day DL in the offseason.

Haha, I’ve heard someone say the same about iPhones.

it is a little crazy. A few years ago, BA said he had the best strike zone recognition out of all the Twins in the minors Think he was listed for best average too. That’s when I started paying attention because from studies done it seems like a lot of the best players in baseball usually are on the strike zone recognition list at some point in their career in the minors. Arraez knock was power and defense. If he didn’t have those issues he probably would have been mentioned a lot more because he’s always had a good bat. If you’ve got a guy who can do them all, well, he’s probably named Mike Trout. Think Wade was the 2019 pitch recognition guy. Again, knock on him is power which makes people put him in the 4th OF pile.

Yes, that’s always true. That’s what teams have to be good at. The Astros seem to be good at that part as well. While they’ve acquired good players, have there been any regrets about the guys they lost? All three traded for Verlander have done nothing so far. That looks like Verlander for a bag of balls. Musgrove is the only decent guy in the Cole trade and as of right now he’s only a three or four in a rotation. Not much lost there as of right now. And we know they’re not regretting getting Verlander or Cole even if they had given up good players. That’s what the Twins need to learn how to do. And while prospect lists weren’t too high on Arraez, it was clear that he could hit. That’s been clear since 2016, at minimum. Just look at his walks vs strikeouts and go from there. He shouldn’t have been seen as such a surprise. Thrylos has been beating that drum for years and it’s the only thing I’ve ever agreed with him on. The questions about Arraez were his defense and no power. He still has time to improve his defense and he can start by being the opening day 2B. Power may come, it may not. I know I never thought Dozier would become a power hitter. I don’t think any of us are saying it’s easy so I guess we’re all in agreement then. I agree with you that this is the perfect time to start doing it. If not now, then they never will. Hopefully they can find a way to keep their best guys like the Astros do and still get very good players in return. Who those best prospects are/were may not be known for another five to ten years. Just because Lewis and Kirilloff are usually one or two on lists doesn’t mean they’ll be good MLB players. Nothing is guaranteed. They have to identify the right ones. Nothing about baseball is easy.

I think you’re missing what birdwatcher said. Houston got Verlander without having to trade their “Royce Lewis.” They got Cole without having to trade their “Royce Lewis.” Why can’t the Twins do the same? I think that’s what birdwatcher is intending. Houston has made great trades with out trading their very top guys. The Twins should try to do that if possible. It may not be possible, but the Astros have done it several times and that’s definitely something the Twins should try to emulate.

Kep

This is just how he is. He starts out with a good eye then he’ll swing at a few bad pitches and get hits off of those pitches. Once that happens his brain thinks he can hit everything..which he clearly can’t.

My first reaction was no. My second reaction was Rosario absolutely needs a few days break and is hitting Hamilton like right now. Maybe with some sitting he’ll stop swinging at everything again. I don’t want Cave out their fielding either but at least he’s hitting.

Not a fan of Minor, but ok with the rest