Where is my knee jerk reaction? I think it was very clear, if you follow those posts back, that my issue is with the implementation of perceived "justice." I'm not claiming I'm being attacked, and I'm not referencing any of my personal posts. Honestly, I'm not sure where you got that idea. You're misrepresenting what I said. There's a massive difference between saying Latin players may face racial injustice and going after another poster because you've (not you personally Brock) decided their critique falls into that category. Telling somebody their post is full of ugly racial stereotypes is in essence calling them a racist so yes, in that regard it's splitting hairs. Again, I shouldn't have to say this, but this isn't about overtly racist posts not is it a defense of them; it's about posts that, at worst, could be considered in a grey area, and whether an attack on them is justified simply because another poster feels a certain way about them. You've beat the drum for "this isn't about you, it's about the collective," which isn't being debated, so I find it confusing that you're sanctioning attacks at an individual level. That's precisely what was being promoted and that's exactly why I pushed back. I truly have no idea why anybody would support a structure where an individual can label you or some extension of you as X, the label grants that individual license to do Y, and Y is justified because that person labeled you as X. It's textbook circular logic, and that's exactly what the posts I was quoting were advocating for. If you're passionately opposed to X, I suppose I can understand why this type of structure, no matter how misguided, receives support, the problem is the fluidity of X. One day you're fighting against X, the next day you're being called X. The "I'm going to attack anything I think might be X, and if some of it turns out to not be, then shrug, I'll still get a few," mentality only exacerbates the irrationality. We shouldn't accept that the level of disapproval excuses the subsequent magnitude of rebuke. To me these last two paragraphs are universal. On your second point... You've said that a discussion is being avoided, but the entire second half of your post is just a rebranding of earlier posts you made. If the idea is to just tell everybody to have personal responsibility and be introspective then we're attending a lecture. I doubt you'll find an argument about the existence of a racial component in American institutions. If that's the discussion you want to have then by all means start down that road.