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  1. When the Twins ended up with a C prospect for you, you would have been the first in line saying they didn't get enough. The organization has defined it's intentions... it's rather obvious. What they haven't done is let everyone know what their intentions are. Part of that is that they want people to come to the games and coming out and saying "We're rebuilding" isn't going to do that. But don't kid your self, they treated this season as a rebuilding year and that was very obvious. That's why both Span and Revere got traded, as the Twins used their surplus at center to improve their lack of pitching. I don't think trading Span and Revere precluded trading Willingham, and there's no evidence of that. I do think that Ryan couldn't get anything of value to justify trading Willingham... And I keep saying this over and over and over again, but if you want to get good value for trades, you have to be willing to say no... Otherwise, you'll rarely ever get value.
  2. Look at it this way. By the all star break, Rodon might be a possibility for next year's draft.
  3. It's probably a mix between 2 and 4. I'm not sure why it is that people are getting so upset about that. There was no indication anywhere that the Twins were getting some serious offers for Willingham.
  4. which is what you are going to get for guys like Pelfrey.
  5. High upside guys with lots of years left should not be on the table. I would have Plouffe, Arcia, Hicks, Parmelee, and Gibson, all off the table.
  6. So you would say Bogarts or no trade? I ask because Barnes/Webster are both pitching in AA and could conceivably be in Minnesota sometime next season. I don't remember who the other SS was (and I could be wrong on that altogether), but he'd be in AA next season looking at a 2015/16 debut.
  7. Stewart pitched for 2 innings with 2Ks. Gave up one run, 2 hits, and no walks.
  8. So has anyone seen info on the other guys the Twins got? I seem to remember them getting Diaz and 4 others who were not named. One more name came out since then.
  9. The Twins should be listening on all of them. I wouldn't expect a ton of return for anyone except for Perkins. Theilbar and Fein are young enough that I could see them asking a bit more, but don't expect a lot.
  10. I wouldn't mind flipping a guy like Pelfrey for Mercer. Mercer would be a better placeholder than Florimon. Slugging .411 doesn't excite me that much, but it's likely an OPS around .750.
  11. Buxton would have to do in AA what he did this year in CR to get called up this time next year. I suspect he's going to be opening day 2015 personally. 2014 will be a transition year, I expect the Twins to ease in a lot of their guys and spread them out over 2014 for service time reasons. As it is, Meyer, May, Tonkin, Pinto, Darnell, Sano, and Rosario will all be transitioned into the lineup and that doesn't include other potential options like Santana or some of their other relievers.
  12. I don't see Bogarts coming over, but this is what Ryan should be asking for. As I said before, I'm dreaming of Bogarts/Barnes, but I doubt Boston does that. I do remember reading somewhere that they have another high ceiling SS that looks to stick in the lower minors. Wonder if they could get that guy and maybe Barnes or Webster instead. I'd be pretty happy if I knew we had a SS of the future that would debut around 2016 or so, but needed a bit more development to go with another high upside pitcher.
  13. Gibson is young enough, he probably doesn't know he's supposed to crap his pants against the Yankees... unfortunately, the bullpen does.
  14. First off, he did sign an asset that is of value to others. The biggest problem you fail to recognize is that value is different to different people. As well, there's another concept called risk that changes the value of said asset... And risk too is a somewhat arbitrary value. To every other GM in the league, Ryan overpaid to get Willingham. That's how he came here. Ryan offered 3/21 and no one else was willing to beat that offer, so Willingham signed with the Twins. 2.5 months later, it's now a 2.5/17M deal. He hasn't solved the injury concerns that made others walk away, but he's clearly outperforming the contract. Now, however, teams have to not only come up with 17M and a roster spot for 2 1/2 years, but they also have to surrender a prospect to get him... I don't see a ton of teams willing to do that last year. Just dont'. Had he kept up where he left off and not hurt his knee, I'd be willing to bet he'd have been just as sought after as Perkins will be... if not more. It's a value/risk proposition, and that's a very fluid process. I don't get where you fault Ryan for not signing an asset that wasn't valuable to others. He is valuable both to the Twins and to others, just not worth what you'd like him to be.
  15. I still think that Doumit will have more value that people think, especially to an NL team who can move him to DH for interleague games. I'm not expecting a huge return there either, but it could happen, especially with Pinto looking like he can fill that role sooner than later. Supposedly Pelfrey was going to get traded to Baltimore, so if his next start or two is decent, I think he'd get moved for something (not expecting much). It's my hope that KC gets traded, and given his play, he could get flipped. I also would not be surprised in the least if TR gets an offer he cannot refuse for Perkins.
  16. You might have a point for GE, but in Pohlad's case, it was not that simple, and that's exactly what the article said. Controlling interest is in the hands of his sons, even though held a huge share, and it was well known for years that he was managing the team. His interest in the team was worth far more than the 20some million dollars he said it was worth. Think of it this way, if his share of the Twins was put on the market for that price, would the final sale price be somewhere around it, or would a number of investors think it's a bargain and seize the opportunity to bid it up? I can almost guarantee you that the price would get bid up pretty significantly. Everyone involved in that process knew that, and just because everyone else does it doesn't make it ethical or somehow legal. It's tax evasion, period.
  17. Law is well known for not being a fan of the Twins too... Pretty impressive.
  18. I've said this in other threads, but part of what makes Ryan a good trader is his ability to say no. That is something Smith never did, and it showed. That's how a Ramos-Capps or Hardy-crap deal is made. Other GMs figured that out and stopped offering Smith anything of value. There are certain players that I think get traded regardless of what they get back (Pelfrey comes to mind on this one), but with some guys, you need to bring back value. I'm with Brock on this, Ryan has shown that he will execute a trade if gets what he feels is good value. I have no doubt he would have done that with Willingham if someone had offered an Alex Meyer type propspect for him. That said, there was no MLBTR rumors indicating such offers were availalbe, just as there were no actual trades made that indicated he had that value.
  19. They should have a shot in 2015 as well. I wouldn't be surprised if they fall short, especially given the age of the roster. I tend to agree with your reasoning though on Perkins, though good relievers can last well into their late 30s, especially given how limited Perkins actually gets used. He will likely still get a big payday if he continues pitching the way he currently pitches, and I could see the Twins giving it to him. I would definitely trade him for a good package, but it would have to be a good one. Part of being good at trading is knowing when to say no. Bill Smith could never do that. I don't have a problem trading guys like Pelfrey for whatever they can get, but Perk is an asset to the org and would be a highly coveted asset in MLB. Unless a top 100 prospect at a position of need is coming back, I don't see him getting traded.
  20. 3 hours of teletubbies > watching the Twins play the Yankees.
  21. Why in the world would the Twins want Cliff Lee unless Philly was giving him away? He's a good pitcher, but he's 34 and will be starting his decline phase at any time.
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