diehardtwinsfan

If you read the draft thread, Rooker was someone a lot of us were pretty high on. I don't mind that pick too much. I have to wonder about the other HS picks. Those are drafts for down the road, with very little to help them now, and they need pitching help now. To me, that says they will be spending big this offseason. They may have to in order to compete.

Cubs take a pitcher with their first pick.

I think people are marking too much of this Boras thing. Boras was talking to all those teams and had a pretty good idea where Lewis was going to go. I would say that cutting a below slot deal with MN could still maximize his client's return which is a win/win for both teams in that aspect. Boras isn't the problem here unless he does a 180 and change his demands, which would be pretty foolish and not very Boras like. He strikes a bargain when he has leverage and makes smart moves for his clients when he does not. I don't think Lewis has that kind of leverage. We aren't talking about the next Ken Griffey Jr. here. As for underslot, I think we forget that if you want a major leaguer, your best bet is to get one in the first round as they are much MUCH harder to come by later. Getting someone with first round talent that falls is a lot easier to do when you have the flexibility to go overslot. It also allows them to go heavy on HS players all through the draft, and those are the guys who tend to have much higher ceilings. To be clear, I'm not a fan of the Lewis pick. I do hope I'm wrong and we just walked away with the next A-Rod (minus the mental issues and steroids), but I'm not sure the strategy is necessarily bad. The Twins will obviously have a much better idea as to who will be around at 35/37 later tonight than we do. Yes, they don't have control about it, but one thing we do know is that someone ALWAYS falls, and they probably have a pretty good idea as to which someone(s) will fall tonight. My bigger concern is that they need pitching now, and short of Seth Romero who will likely be there (but presents a pretty significant risk of his own), they just punted on their best option to add a quick rising starter to the fold.

well, going to be a long night I see.

I could care less about Kendall... I'd have to think about JB at 35 if he was still there though.

both IE and firefox. it doesn't refresh.

I cannot get mlb.com draft tracker to work. Any other site have a working draftcast?

yeah, not a fan... I wasn't a fan of Buxton though either, so what do I know.

not liking this... he's going to have to be Trout like to justify this pick. They needed pitching and a shot at a good one.

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I've got to admit that I get a happy feeling thinking of a Gordon/Palacios middle infield for most of the next decade.

I think you may be wrong on this point, unless you are referring to trade waivers, which is a totally different concept as the Twins would have pulled him back immediately if a deal wasn't reached.

I remember watching some documentary on that as a kid... no question the boat didn't make it. The real question is how far they got before they had to swim, and if they could do so.

I'm guessing it was more need based. Turley to MLB. Someone from AA goes to AAA, and so on. After the all star game, they will start releasing org filler and bringing up some of the prospects.

They really don't... these are 16 year old kids... way too much can happen simply in terms of life type things... some kids top out at height at 16. Some don't do it until 20. Most still have room to grow.

Even in contention, he might be a chip to dangle if they can get SP help that can help right now... I'd be comfortable downgrading the offense to upgrade the rotation. Escobar/Polanco isn't sexy, but it won't kill you. Gordon will likely be in AAA after the ASB given how well he's doing and could be ready to slot into a role as early as 2018 spring. Worst case, you get a decent 2B/SS needing a 1 year prove it contract to hold down a spot to give Gordon a bit more time.

I'm sure if the Twins wanted to trade Santana that there would be a bunch of potential partners lining up. I have no doubt they could get a good deal. That said, like others have noted, this is a position of weakness not strength. I'd have to be pretty blown away on that deal to make it work because, yes, they are giving up on 2017. I'm fine with that if they start tailing away, but they are still winning ballgames into mid-june... Heading up to the 4th of July, they have the following: 4 games at home against Seattle 7 games with Cleveland (including a double header) 3 at home against the White Sox 4 games in Boston 4 games in KC (including a double header) Barring rain outs, they will have 1 off day between now and July 9. This should be a pretty good test as to whether or not they have staying power. My other caveat is this. If they trade ESan, they had better plan on getting some good options in FA this offseason. Even if the draft Wright or McKay and pick up an AAA pitcher and other in AA, they are likely punting on 2018 as well if they don't get some FA help.

So does Sano have any HRs longer than that Vargas shot?

My list is Wright/McKay Gore Green I really don't care which one of Wright or McKay the Twins pick. I hope they pick the one that has a better career.

DRod to AA... I like it. They need to figure out what they have in him.

By the way... no mention of Dr. Die? That one kind of writes itself

yeah, not a lot to complain about here. None of the AAA starting pitchers have really impressed. Turley has been a bit of hit and miss himself this year, but I think there's something to be said for giving him a shot given how well he performs. It's likely nothing, but if he can be a competent starter (or even show something to indicate he can be a competent reliever), that goes a long way to helping this team.

I'm all for giving both a day off. Mauer because he seems to need them regularly at this point, and Buxton because he hasn't been good lately.

Perhaps we should go see Metallica together next time they perform with a symphony orchestra.

This was his third complete game shutout of the season.... it's rare to see that these days and 3 by mid-June is rather impressive.