diehardtwinsfan

I understand that. It's a question about what is best for Buxton as well.

A .645 OPS and 31% K rate is nothing write home about. It's still below average. I'll grant you that from April to May, he improved... If he's improving from May to June, I'd tend to agree that you might be right in keeping him up, but it seems as though he's regressed a bit lately. Maybe I'm wrong there, and I'd like to be.

And he's playing less and less because he cannot hit. He was off against Berrios and off again yesterday. I understand the desire to see him, but it isn't necessarily best for Buxton to keep him up while his hit tool continues to border somewhere between terrible and well below average.

Jarred Aikens, Fresno OF

We grabbed an HS kid in 11 (not top 200), but those moves are definitely in hopes of getting one or two higher ceiling guys to sign away college if they can throw enough money at them. Hoping we can get at least 1 HS guy that way.

I don't agree with either of these statements. He can certainly learn things about hitting in AAA, and what is really hard is trying to get him into good habits when he's pressing and letting MLB pitching exploit him. His problem right now is his approach, and win now mode doesn't exactly lend itself to improving his approach. AAA has values beyond the stat lines, and I have a tough time believing Buxton is above replacement level right now.

BTW, Rooker was a draft eligible Sophomore last season. He does have some leverage for the record.

I would note that it will be interesting to see if they use a few picks today to grab more HS talent. They probably have some money to lure away some guys. That may also be a part of the plan.

I would think Rooker would start in High A personally. makes sense at least. He'd be set for AA next season.

I'd add that the odds of one working out is very good, and the odds of both working out is still reasonably good. It's a good process with no clear cut BPA, and I think we can all agree that there was no clear cut BPA in this draft.

yeah, I don't think cheap is the right option. I'm guessing they had Enlow targeted from day 1 as they saw him as mid first round talent and were willing to offer him more than what he was going to get otherwise. He responds by having high bonus demands which scare away other teams knowing the Twins are going to give him 2+M, essentially pricing himself out of where he would have normally been drafted. The Twins then look at their BPAs and have about 5 names that they really like and simply leverage them against each other and take the guy who gives them the lowest dollar amount. They walk out with a top 5 talent in the draft and probably a top 20 (on their list at least) effectively giving them 2 first rounders. I think a few of us (myself included) maintained that this was a good strategy absent a clear BPA at the top. There's zero question based on the debate we saw here that there was a clear BPA at the top. I personally would have preferred McKay, as he was one of the 5 and a better fit in terms of need, but if the money didn't work out, I can understand. They walk away with more value that way in the draft. The real problem is that we didn't get any fast rising college pitchers, meaning that they will have to make a big FA splash if they want to give this hitting core a chance over the next few years.

which is sadly disappointing...

I don't agree with that at all. Buxton is NOT hitting major league pitching, and at one point, working on some things where he cement good behaviors is far more important than letting him continue to flail away at pitches he has no business even swinging at. AAA is not just about proving you've mastered the level. That's scouting stat lines. I'm glad that his average has crept up from under a hundred to around the medoza line, but he's swinging at way too many pitches out of the zone and setting himself up to fail. He's got to correct that, and at one point, a minor league stint to do that makes sense.

I get the defensive value, but that bat isn't ready yet... at what point does it make sense to let him get a tune up in AAA?

Because Leach would not have been there at 76.

As much as I am not a fan of the selection, SS prospects are like pitching prospects in that they are currency, far more so than other positions. That isn't a bad thing. I would have preferred McKay personally, if it was a choice between the two, but at this point, it's done. I'm not sure they outsmarted themselves, but it's clear they were not sold on McKay, Wright, and Greene nearly as much as we were.

Depends, is it 3 runs or 4?

the theme was disappointed... guess Sano being out fits right in.

I think my game thread record just hit 0-4.

If he had an 80 power tool, he would have been the clear BPA and there would have been no question who we were picking

The issue at hand is that you cannot go in that order... That's why they had to do it that way. more talent overall that way. If they are pretty confident that each can be average to above ML players, this will be a good draft... We will see how it plays out though.

you nailed that one.

For all the talk about upside, HS players have the most upside (and more risk too for that matter). It may be that they weren't big fans of the college players at all in this draft so they felt it would be better to buy a bunch of HS kids away from college with the hopes that one or two really hit it big. Think of it as getting a McKay/Wright type guy before he goes to college. Neither were 1st round type selections in HS.

I'm guessing they are going to go heavy on HS talent today... I would hope so at least.

Disappointment seems to be the theme of the day around Twins Daily. I am personally disappointed in my game record, as I’m still winless. We are disappointed that the team is in first place, disappointed in our bullpen construction, disappointed in Joe Mauer because he’s not superman, disappointed in our first pick of the draft, disappointed that Kyle Gibson is starting tonight, disappointed in that abomination of a baseball game yesterday, and somehow even disappointed with the loveable TC Bear. So… let’s go for something different and talk just about appointed. Strangely enough, that carries a much different meaning, certainly not the opposite of disappointed. Lately, it’s simply the newest of Trump cabinet members, as the previous holder of said position was disappointing and thus fired. And that is about all I can do for humor today, so I’ll leave you all disappointed. Things to think about. 1. Kyle Gibson. He’s definitely been a bit disappointing this season, especially given that I was one to say that I thought he would turn the corner. Apparently, he got lost on that street and made a few wrong turns, got hit by a bus or four, and briefly ended up in New York. However, he’s quietly strung together some much better outings of late. We have to root for him to have figured this out, because to be honest, there’s not much hope in the high minors. We are stuck with him for a while. 2. Christian Bergman. This is our opponents starting pitcher. Bergman is a 29 year old journeyman (if you can call him that) with a career K/9 lower than Gibson. With guys like Buxton and Rosario at the plate, we are placed in a classic baseball paradox. Something will have to give tonight, or else the entire space-time continuum might rupture. Bergman hails from Altadena, CA. There is very little of note about Altadena. Altadena is to Los Angeles as Altavista is to Google. 3. Needles. The city of Seattle is known to be the home of the world’s largest and only space needle. Its exact purpose is hard to comprehend. We use needles to draw blood or weave fabrics together, but neither of those are applicable here as space is vast and empty. 4. History. History was a kind giver today. She gave us the Miranda rights in 1966, the Pentagon Papers in 1971. She also bequeathed us Dorothy Sayers, Lolita, and Hurricane Agnes. 5. We are still in first place. The last time we were in first place and picking 1 overall, we drafted some kid named Mauer in what turned out to be an impressive draft class. Mauer certainly hasn’t aged like fine wine, but he was HOF worthy for his first decade with the team. So to Mr. Lewis, here’s to hoping you prove me horribly wrong. Good luck.