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  1. Quick question: didn't PIT give up a pretty decent player as a PTBNL earlier this week? A pitcher named Black or something?
  2. Not for today's negotiations, but there have been multiple reports from national media that other teams were not interested in Morneau because of the money he was owed. If the Twins were volunteering to pay a portion of that, presumably that would not have been an issue.
  3. Well, I'll give my two cents: unless the PBTNL is the more significant piece, I don't like the trade. 1. It smells like a salary dump. In fact, as someone said above, it smells a lot like the Liriano trade from last year: up against the deadline the Twins got the best offer they could to save themselves $2.3M. 2. Presley is, at best, a slightly better Clete Thomas, and we already have a Clete Thomas. The Twins don't need that player. Presley is very unlikely to be part of the next competitive Twins team. 3. No, I didn't think they would get much for Morneau. And they didn't. But I can't help but wonder what they could have gotten if they weren't insistent on not paying the $2.3M. Or if they at least could have gotten a piece that was better suited to the organization. For instance, if this guy was a 27yo pitcher who had bounced between AAA and MLB, I'd be a lot more forgiving. 4. The only thing that give me some hope is that Ryan was rumored to be asking for much more from teams than this. So maybe the PTBNL is something significant. After all, Liriano was a throw-in. And Ryan has a track record of doing fairly well on such trades. But this is pretty disappointing.
  4. I'll respond with good aspects of a rebuild. But first, let's talk about the difference between a rebuild and a tear-down. I think a lot of people say "rebuild" when they mean a "tear-down". For instance, trading away Willingham is not a rebuild, it's a tear-down. What the Twins could get in return is part of the rebuild, but just a very small part. I think the fan base mixes up the two because there is something satisfying about watching a tear-down: it's highly visible and it's immediate and easy to talk about. But a rebuild is the long part after a tear-down. It's also mostly invisible. And it is harder to talk about. The Twins rebuilding moves include trading for Meyer and May and having them take a step forward. Drafting Buxton and Kohl Stewart and Jose Berrios need to be included. Also, watching Sano and Buxton and Rosario and Arcia each take several steps forward. It also includes moving Dozier to second base where he has thrived. Also picking up Deduno as a minor league free agent and have him provide solid starting-pitching results. Moving Glen Perkins to the bullpen where he thrived. Picking up Fien, Thielbar, Burton and Pressley from the scrap hear and turning them into decent relievers. Finding Diamond as a Rule 5 pick in someone's organization and then trading a non-prospect for him when he couldn't be on the 25-man roster. Finally, successfully rehabilitating Kyle Gibson and have him make his way to the majors. These are the slow, small moves that are a rebuild, in my mind.
  5. You can view the page at http://twinsdaily.com/content.php?r=2281-Twins-Trade-Justin-Morneau-To-Pirates
  6. The Minnesota Twins have announced they have traded Justin Morneau to the Pittsburgh Pirates for outfielder Alex Presley and a player to be named later who was later identified as reliever Duke Welker. Morneau, who was drafted by the Twins in 1999, moved into 3rd place on the Twins all-time home run list just last night when he passed Tony Oliva with his 221st career blast.[PRBREAK][/PRBREAK] It also provided the deciding run in a 3-2 win over the Texas Rangers. If he does not return to the Twins, he will also rank high on the Twins leaderboard, including slugging percentage (4th - .485), RBI (5th - 860) and extra-base hits (5th - 526). He will almost certainly become a member of the Twins Hall of Fame when he is eligible. Morneau had been the subject of trade rumors for months as he was becoming a free agent at the end of the year and had the second highest salary on the non-contending ballclub. The Pirates have agreed as part of the trade to pay the approximate $2.3M he will still make this year. The initial player who was announced was Alex Presley, a 27-year-old outfielder who has bounced between AAA and the Pirates for the last four years. During that time, he's hit .261 with a .718 OPS over 699 plate appearances while mostly playing corner outfield spots. He's had considerably more success in AAA, where he posted an 837 OPS while playing mostly in centerfield. As a left-handed hitter, he profiles as a player similar to, albeit a slight upgrade to, Clete Thomas. Later, the second player, Duke Welker, was announced. Welker is also 27 years old and serves as the closer for the Pirates AAA affiliate. This year he struck out 64 batters in 61 innings with a 3.25 ERA and a 1.279 WHIP. He profiles as a serviceable right-handed reliever.
  7. That's a very interesting point. I don't think I've ever seen a case where a non-contending team blocked a contending team from a waiver pickup so they could keep their guy front and center. But it would work - provided the Mariners didn't then block Willingham.
  8. Is Terry Ryan trolling us? Per Phil Miller.... 1. Not only did the Twins accept cash for Jamey Carroll instead of getting back a "prospect", but... 2. When asked what they got, Terry Ryan replied "Cash, Homey." I know that what bothers me about this is mostly symbolic, but good lord, this is frustrating. It's not like the Twins scouts couldn't root around deep into KC's farm system and find something.
  9. There's certainly a continuum between "We're division contenders" and "We're rebuilding." (BTW, My opinion is that when Ryan is saying he wants to contend this year isn't so much that he's trying to sell tickets - it's that he wants the entire organization to not get lazy. He's trying to turn up the heat.) His two biggest moves this offseason were certainly moves for the future versus moves for the present. He did somewhat fill some holes - I'd put Pelfrey and Correia under that umbrella. I don't undertand the 2-year deal with Correia, but if you try to judge the organization's direction with that move, you end up in all kinds of goofy places. I think Occam's Razor applies for move - they just thought he was a lot better than he was. Also, they panicked. But if we want to talk Correia, I think we should probably start up a different thread. That topic has been beaten dead.
  10. I've been wondering about trading away Doumit, but I might like your plan better: keep him now since he value is iffy and roll the dice on him as a midyear acquisition. I guess I'd want to see how things shake out. If he's going to be spending a lot of time at DH, I'm not going to be happy. I can't go with Sizemore, but I wouldn't be totally opposed to them signing someone to play cf for a year. But I think I'd also be satisfied with Clete/Mastro holding the spot until either Hicks or Buxton takes it away.
  11. Don't forget to include Butera.
  12. It's also quite possible that the Orioles claimed him to block him from someone else who they're currently chasing.
  13. I don't get this, but I'm hearing it from multiple people, so I'm open to hearing the reasoning. The Twins WANT Willingham to get through waivers. It increases their negotiating power if he does. So why not put him through waivers either: 1) when he's hurt or 2) the first day he's "healthy"? At that point, teams are far less likely to claim him. Which, again, is what the Twins want in this situation. Am I missing something?
  14. Nice reverse jinx! so why the hell didnt the Twins try and put him through waivers at the beginning of the month, when teams were less likely to claim him. Ugh!
  15. Friend of the site Sarah Johnson passes this along: Its 5 mins long and, I thought, a good primer to pre-Twins baseball in MN. On a side note, I'd love to feature more historical stuff n this site.
  16. Wow, that is pretty cool. Who wants to organize a Twins Daily trip to AZ?
  17. I just read a story about a team in a similar boat as the Twins - the 2013 Chicago Cubs. The author was wondering "how do we as fans judge a rebuilding effort?" He notes a few setbacks: first, "Other than a few scattered years, the Chicago Cubs have pretty much been building or rebuilding since the Taft administration." Also he points out that the two biggest hopes for their future, Starlin Castro and Anthony Rizzo, "have had wildly dissappointing seasons." But he sees the Cubs as doing fairly well overall. He finds hope in: - an improving farm system - longtime problems are being addresses, like fielding and plate patience - they've mostly been competetive. So how do we judge the Twins rebuilding effort? I see a lot of parallels.
  18. Yeah, to that argument, I guess I'd say - "resposible for who?" The answer, obviously is "the Pohlads," but: a) I'm not a Pohlad, so why do I care about that exactly? I'm a fan, and I don't see anything responsible about (somewhat) willfully neglecting an enormous resource that could have made the year (or in the case of international free agents, the future) a better one. Also If I was a Pohlad, I might wonder why a manager a few levels down from me (Ryan reports to Dave St. Peter, who reports to the Pohlads) is solely making a decision like that which affects so many other aspects of the organization. It certainly makes things like "selling season tickets" tougher, which is not under his control but is under the control of the guy he reports to. Granted, if I'm Pohlad, I have $20 million extra dollars to soothe my concerns. I can pocket it or give it to St. Peter to use on some other endeavors. But the point is that if that's the way we, as an organization wanted to play this, we would have given him a budget with $20 million less than we did. No, I don't think there was anything "responsible" about how the free agent market was handled this offseason.
  19. You can view the page at http://twinsdaily.com/content.php?r=2268-Looking-For-Clues-In-September
  20. This season was supposed to answer some questions about the makeup of the next winning Minnesota Twins team. It has largely failed to do so. But there is still some time and some September callups which might provide some clues as to the proper moves to make this offseason. The Starting Rotation (recall Scott Diamond) I just deleted an introductory paragraph with a lot of stats because it showed you something you already know: the Twins starting rotation is very bad. It was very bad last year, too. And with no immediate help on the horizon, the question is whether the Twins can somehow avoid “very bad” again next year. [PRBREAK][/PRBREAK] Ideally, the answer would involve giving time to younger pitchers with limited experience and some upside, like Scott Diamond, Liam Hendriks, Vance Worley and Kyle Gibson. However, Hendriks is here and Worley and Gibson are likely done for the year. That leaves Diamond, who has posted a 1.91 ERA since his demotion. In an ideal world, he would replace Mike Pelfrey, who would be traded for a Buterrific prospect from a contending team. Otherwise, shouldn’t Pelfrey have an innings limit after coming back from Tommy John? Isn’t he nearing it? Please? (Don’t get me started on giving Kevin Correia a two-year deal. No. Don’t. I’m not kidding. Be still.) The Bullpen (recall Michael Tonkin) The Twins one area of strength is the bullpen, so recalling Tonkin isn’t absolutely necessary. Tonkin was hit pretty hard on Sunday, and has already passed his career high for games this season. It would be understandable if he was just shut him down when Rochester’s season ends, especially if they rely on him down the stretch. But one way the Twins could continue to build for the future would be to trade some relievers. The Twins already look like they have four impact relievers – Glen Perkins, Jared Burton, Caleb Thielbar and Casey Fien. Seeing Tonkin in the majors could make them more comfortable shopping one of these guys, though trading relievers in the offseason (when there are so many free agent arms available) doesn’t seem especially profitable. Catcher (recall Josmil Pinto) This is maybe the least likely callup, but there is a good reason to consider it. Just like re-signing Justin Morneau adds to the glut of corner fielding types, so does Ryan Doumit’s guaranteed deal next year. The Twins have any number of players that could use at-bats from the DH or right field spots, which makes Doumit’s primary value that of a catcher who can step in 70 games per year without embarrassing himself defensively. In some ways, Josmil Pinto looks like a similar player. He has shown he can hit at each level but, like Doumit, his defense is questionable. Playing him (and Chris Herrmann) in September might give a hint as to how aggressively the Twins could shop Doumit, who isn’t particularly valuable, but can fill a valuable niche for some teams. It would also give the Twins some sense of their backup options if Mauer’s concussion doesn’t clear up immediately (and maybe give Mauer some extra rest). Center Field (recall Darin Mastroianni) We all wish Aaron Hicks was ready for the majors. Indeed, we all hoped he was. He wasn’t, and after some initial struggles in Rochester and then some injuries, he’s far from having mastered AAA. In fact, there is less evidence that Hicks belongs in the majors on Opening Day than there was at this time last year. So the Twins need to figure out what their center field options are. Playing Mastroiann and Clete Thomas as a platoon in September might hint as to whether the Twins need to spackle over that centerfield spot until Hicks is ready. (So might calling up Antoan Richardson and his.393 OBP, but I’m not holding my breath.) First Base/DH/Right Field/Left Field (recall Chris Parmelee) I’m also not holding my breath for this move, either. Three of these four spots are regularly tied up by veterans – Doumit, Morneau and Josh Willingham - and the leftover spot needs to be dedicated to Oswaldo Arcia as often as possible. That has left Chris Colabello on the bench a little too often - check that - a LOT too often considering he seems to be behind Wilkin Ramirrez and Chris Herrmann on the depth chart. Don’t get me wrong – Ramirez and Herrmann both should be evaluated as bench players, but I’d much rather evaluate next year’s possible first baseman. I can understand keeping Parmelee in Rochester. He is hitting just .223, and that isn’t the front office’s fault. But 2012's version of Chris Colabello who tore up the Eastern League had "Parmelee" stitched on his back and he’s four years younger and while he didn’t break through in his 242 at-bats this year, he didn’t crash and burn either. A September Parmelee/Colabello platoon makes sense as an experiment at any of three roster spots – first base, right field or DH – and its not like all the high-end talent in this lineup should prove an insurmountable obstacle. Shortstop (recall Eduardo Escobar) Instead, I suspect I’m going to see this. I’ll admit a bias against Escobar: he’s never hit (even in the minors), his defense looked downright crummy with the Twins and he’s the “return” we got for Francisco Liriano. On the other hand, I have become irrationally attached to Pedro Florimon; he shines defensively, teased a little with some early hitting and the Twins stole him as a waiver wire pickup. If you think that last point doesn’t really matter, then you don’t know me. But Florimon is now just 27 points of the 600 OPS I feared he would ultimately have. Escobar has been hitting in Rochester - .287/.364/.419. More encouraging is that the 24-year-old (2 years younger than Florimon) has 14 BB and 29 strikeouts, which is a bit better than the nearly 1:4 ratio he had in AAA prior to this season. Finally, Escobar’s defensive reputation is much better than he demonstrated in his fairly short time with the Twins. It makes sense to see if Escobar can reverse first impressions this fall. The problem is that if he succeeds, the Twins are right where they were to start the season – without any real answer at shortstop. But truthfully, that can be said for any number of positions. The Twins have more questions than answers. Perhaps September and it’s callups will provides some clues.
  21. Have the Rock Cats officially been eliminated? Do we think Sano & Rosario will join Rochester soon?
  22. You can view the page at http://twinsdaily.com/content.php?r=2263-Gleeman-and-the-Geek-Episode-108-Brain-Injuries-and-September-Callups
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