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  1. we already know Bumgarner SAID he turned down larger offers.
  2. you're only looking at it from one angle. Nodoby doubts that Ryu has an injury filled past. That's why the 2019 NL CYA runner up went so cheaply. That's why many here preferred someone else, if they had their drothers. But the Twins absolutely need to add good starting pitching. They passed on the other options. Or the other options passed on them, if you want to be charitable. So that left Ryu. And he went for 4/$80. And his most RECENT history is 180 IP. For a team in the Twins position, that was EXTREMELY reasonable. Eminently doable. It would have potentially made a big impact, if he's healthy, and not done significant damage to the team is he isnt. This was a no brainer. There's no recovery, unless they get lucky with some lotto ticket. They can still make trades, but that should have been in addition to a FA starter, not instead of. And make no mistake, there's no guarantee they'll find a starter as good as Ryu available, and if they do, it won't be cheap.
  3. youre making my point for me. People here are advocating for even LESS depth in the rotation THIS year. "We didn't need an expensive FA! We have Berrios, Odo and Pineda!"
  4. I was responding to the "he couldn't go 150 innings if his life depended on it" nonsense. He just went 180.
  5. Option A: team spends money on free agent, fills obvious need. Gets 2 good years, 2 not so good years. Cant afford a free agent replacement 2 years down the road. Option B: team doesnt fill need by signing FA. Doesnt get 2 good years. Won't sign FA 2 years down the road, because, free agent. Owner pockets the money.
  6. Zimmer must go. Most pathetic game plan and play calling on modern history, or all time?
  7. Except that's not true. Players offered a QO are free to negotiate while they decide to accept or not. And even if they werent, I wouldn't believe any claim an agent wouldnt have a pretty good feel for what their client is worth
  8. you're arguing on one hand the Twins were victims of injuries and suspensions, while at the same time arguing they should go into 2020 with a 3 deep pitching staff again. What could go wrong? And I'm unimpressed with arguments based on the Twins only scoring 7 runs in the ALDS...17 would have been 5 short. They gave up 23, in 2 fewer innings than they pitched. They need improved starting pitching. Letting all the FA options go was a colossal mistake. Full stop.
  9. CY runner up. We're talking about the team that started Randy Dobnak in game 2 of the ALDS in Yankee Stadium.
  10. its your position that Odorizzi and his agent had no clue of what his market vakue would be if he declined the QO? Or is it your position he knew he could get as much as Wheeler/Bumgarner/Ryu and elected NOT to? Color me skeptical, in either case.
  11. your argument is that the 2019 NL CY Award winner isnt better than any of Berrios, Odorizzi, or Pineda?? THAT'S what your hanging your hat on? Edit: CY runner up
  12. provided he accepts. Which I'm guessing Odorizzi regrets.
  13. The Twins have developed a handful of effective starters in 3 decades, but if we hold on with clenched fingers to THIS set of prospects, we'll be set up for long term success!! We're going to have top notch pitching coming out of our ears, and it'll line up perfectly with the endless supply of highly successful position players! And the money saved now will allow a splash or two THEN...maybe when we're coming off a 100 win season, and have obvious needs!! Slow and steady!
  14. This offseason is now a failure. No trade can make up for it. Any such trade should have been in addition to, not instead of, free agent impact pitching. And they haven't made a trade either, for that matter. Pretty difficult to explain this away.
  15. Scratch Ryu off that list of available free agents. This is a major disappointment of an offseason, and there's no rescuing it. Dont care who they do or dont trade for, they've wasted an opportunity to add badly needed top starting pitching for nothing but money, of which they have barrel fulls.
  16. Disappointing is an understatement.
  17. I dont see anywhere in the post you quoted a statement that Falvey and Levine want to lose. Its difficult to have reasonable conversations against strawmen.
  18. you list three FA options, two of which are gone. That's 2/3rds...seems like a Dramatic dwindling to me.
  19. first of all, neither of us KNOW they're going to add to the rotation. They should...and they probably will. But adding to the bottom of the rotation is pretty much the same as not adding at all, in terms of what it actually accomplishes. And FA options have dwindled down to one. So we're down to that one option, or adding through trade...where options are extremely limited, and will be very expensive. So why pretend there's unlimited time, and unlimited options, to add "impact pitching?" I just don't get it.
  20. Keuchel to White Sox, 3/$55, plus vesting 4th yr option. Ryu holds all the cards.
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