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Sano Problem, He's Already One Of The Best
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Speaking metaphorically, while having a smaller leak in the bottom of the boat is a better option than a bigger one - having no leak should actually be the design. -
Wasn't Byung Ho Park a Gold Glove winner in Korea? Why wouldn't he start ahead of Mauer at 1B on an all-defensive Twins team?
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Great Seasons You May Have Forgotten – Luis Tiant, 1968
Teflon commented on Teflon's blog entry in Blog Teflon
Thanks for your comment, Willi and for posting the video from the 1975 World Series. (It was good to hear a snippet of Curt Gowdy, too.) There's a really good SABR biography of Luis Tiant at the link below that also describes Tiant's reunion with his parents in 1975 after 14 years of separation: http://sabr.org/bioproj/person/2212deaf -
http://www.clevescene.com/images/blogimages/2009/04/29/1241034084-tiant.jpg 1968 was a pinnacle of pitching in the Major Leagues. Denny McLain won 31 games for the Tigers and Bob Gibson compiled a legendary 1.12 ERA for the Cardinals while throwing 13 shutouts. Easy to miss when browsing through the performances from that year was a Cleveland pitcher who went 21-9 with a 1.60 ERA, 264 strikeouts and only 152 hits allowed in 258 innings. When seen today, those numbers could easily be mistaken for something from the back of a Sandy Koufax baseball card - but those impressive pitching results didn’t belong to a Brooklyn-born lefty but a Cuban born right-hander named Luis Tiant. When Castro took control of Cuba, Luis was a 19-year old playing in the Mexican League. Being outside the country when the island was seized meant he could continue his career in baseball but also meant that he would not be able to return to his homeland or see his family again for many years. Tiant was signed by the Indians organization and pitched in the minors until 1964 when his 15-1 record for the Portland Beavers of the Pacific Coast League made it clear that the 23-year-old Tiant was ready for the big leagues. (Tommy John and Sudden Sam McDowell were also on that Portland pitching staff and would join Tiant with the Indians that year) Luis pitched in 19 games for Cleveland in the second half of the 1964 season making 16 starts and going 10-4. Over the next three seasons with Cleveland, Tiant was only 35-31 but led the American League in shutouts in 1966 and in strikeouts per 9 in 1967. In 1968, it all came together for Tiant. After a slow start to the season (1-2) Tiant shut out the next four opponents in succession, including a three-hitter against the Twins on May 19th. By the end of June, he was 12-5. The first start for Luis in July would be at home against Jim Merritt and the Twins. Merrit would be tough that day, limiting the Tribe to no runs and only 4 hits over 9 innings. Tiant, however, was masterful that day. He kept the Twins off the scoreboard for 9 innings as well, striking out 16. In the 10th, Rich Reese led off with a double to right for the Twins and Frank Quilici sacrificed him to third, reaching first base safely on a fielder’s choice. Tiant struck out the next batter, catcher Johnny Roseboro. Twins manager Cal Ermer sent in Rich Rollins to pinch hit for shortstop Jackie Hernandez. Tiant struck out Rollins. Jim Merritt, the pitcher, was due up next and Ermer chose not to pinch hit. Merritt had been impossible to solve for Cleveland that day and Ermer wanted to have him for the 10th. Tiant struck out Merritt. Tiant had come up with three strikeouts in the tenth to keep a shutout in order after having a runner at third with no outs. Merrit took the mound for the bottom of the 10th. Indians left fielder Lou Johnson led off with a single and took second on shortstop Cesar Tovar’s miscue on the play. (Tovar had played at third base all day and had just moved to short after Ermer pinch hit Rollins for Hernandez.) The next batter for Cleveland was catcher Joe Azcue who singled in Johnson to win the game. Tiant had a 10-inning shutout with 19 strikeouts. Luis continued to pitch great through July, improving his record to 17-6. August was a different story, Tiant struggled. He lost three starts and pitched in three no-decisions. After pitching a complete game on August 10th, he made 5 consecutive early exits, the last three all being less than 6-inning efforts. On September 9th, Luis Tiant took the mound at Metropolitan Stadium in Bloomington looking for his 20th win. He would once again match up against Jim Merritt. Minnesota got on the scoreboard early as thirdbaseman Graig Nettles homered in the bottom of the first. That would be all the scoring for the Twins, however, as Tiant only surrendered four more hits and struck out 16. Cleveland had no problems with Merritt this time around and won handily, 6-1. After picking up his 20th win, Tiant was shelved by the Indians for 12 days before making a two-inning relief appearance against the Angels. Following that, Tiant made one last start on September 25th. It was a gem – a 3-0 blanking of the Yankees in the Bronx although barely 5,000 were on hand to see it. Tiant held the Yankees to a single hit that afternoon (Mickey Mantle) and struck out 11. In looking back on Luis Tiant’s 1968 season, he led the American League in ERA, shutouts, and fewest hits per 9 innings. He was third in strikeouts behind his Portland/Cleveland teammate Sam McDowell and the Tigers’ Denny McLain. (Denny McLain took home both the Cy Young and MVP awards.) When applying newer metrics, Tiant was clearly the best starting pitcher his league, however, leading the AL in Adjusted Pitching Wins, Base-Out Runs Saved, Win Probability Added, and Fielding Independent Pitching.
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Article: Dozier's Defensive Dilemma
Teflon replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
It's puzzling that a player that's younger than Kinsler and Pedroia is getting worse in defensive metrics. It would be interesting to understand if the Twins have been positioning him any differently. They had an inexperienced 1B beside him in '14 and were making more IF shifts in '15 under Molitor. -
Some additional information... The Lahman database has a list of years players attended colleges. Using the same players from aging trends data, here is a breakdown of the years of college for the non-pitching starters by year: There was a trend into the mid 90's of an increasing number of starters being 3-year college players that was indirectly proportional to the falloff in the number of players with no college. (0 years). This has since reverted. Starters are now increasingly likely not to have college experience. So this does support sane09's assertions - but isn't the sole reason as the reverting college trend hasn't surpassed the early 70s level as the aging trend has. Pitchers show the same change - perhaps even more so: And just to finish this train of thought, I decided to look at the aging trend of managers: Since this is a smaller set of data, it tends to be skewed by persons at the extremes like Connie Mack. Still, the overall trend is that the average age of managers is rising.
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Agreed. With players back to having normal peaks of performance followed by a normal decline instead of more extended plateaus - front offices realize the return on investment now more quickly diminishes for later contracts. A model to better balance the return based on the declining age trend would be to shorten the amount of years teams control players, allowing them to reach free agency a year, if not two, sooner, so the second contracts are given earlier and expire earlier but contain more true worth.
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If an increased emphasis on signing college players (which is what "selecting older players in the amateur draft" means ) was the major factor driving the average age up, then the now declining age trend would mean that the opposite is occurring - and it isn't.
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In 1971 the average age of MLB non-DH starting position players was 28.9. This began rising year by year to a peak of 30.1 years of age in 1996. One could assume this was due largely to players’ careers being extended artificially by PEDs. Or one could also possibly assume teams were selecting older players in the amateur draft or perhaps being more deliberate with their prospects.Based on how the trend changed following a Senate hearing, a BALCO bust and a couple of Jose Canseco tell-all books, however, I mostly assume the former. And here’s how the trend changed. The average age of starting MLB position players has dropped by three years, to 26.9. This going-to-youth trend is observed at every position. Pitchers, who have been hovering around the same average age of 29 for the last 35 years, were younger in comparison to hitters through the 70s, 80s, and 90s but are now older in comparison – even though their trend has been moving slightly downward since 2004. (This is the dotted black line - based on the top10 innings-pitched pitchers on each team, each season) A three-year shift in the age of hitters means teams are increasingly built around the earlier contracts of players. A larger number of players at low-end salaries means even more money thrown into the fewer top-end salaries - meaning the pay gap gets bigger and bigger and the already-dwindling MLB middle class gets even smaller. (Basically one Donald Trump on the payroll and 24 fast-food drive-through employees) To me, these changes represent a major philosophical and practical shift in the way baseball teams now make decisions, but no one seems to be talking about it. A three-year shift in the average age of players is huge. Click here to view the article
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Based on how the trend changed following a Senate hearing, a BALCO bust and a couple of Jose Canseco tell-all books, however, I mostly assume the former. And here’s how the trend changed. The average age of starting MLB position players has dropped by three years, to 26.9. This going-to-youth trend is observed at every position. Pitchers, who have been hovering around the same average age of 29 for the last 35 years, were younger in comparison to hitters through the 70s, 80s, and 90s but are now older in comparison – even though their trend has been moving slightly downward since 2004. (This is the dotted black line - based on the top10 innings-pitched pitchers on each team, each season) A three-year shift in the age of hitters means teams are increasingly built around the earlier contracts of players. A larger number of players at low-end salaries means even more money thrown into the fewer top-end salaries - meaning the pay gap gets bigger and bigger and the already-dwindling MLB middle class gets even smaller. (Basically one Donald Trump on the payroll and 24 fast-food drive-through employees) To me, these changes represent a major philosophical and practical shift in the way baseball teams now make decisions, but no one seems to be talking about it. A three-year shift in the average age of players is huge.
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In 1971, the average age of MLB non-DH starting position players was 28.9. This began rising steadily year-by-year to a peak of 30.1 years of age in 1996. One could assume this was due largely to players’ careers being extended artificially by PEDs – or one could possibly assume teams were selecting older players in the amateur draft or perhaps being more deliberate with their prospects. Based on how the trend changes following a senate hearing, a BALCO bust and a couple of Jose Canseco tell-all books, however, I mostly assume the former. And here’s how the trend changed. The average age of starting MLB position players has dropped by 3 years! (To 26.9.) This reverting-to-youth trend is observed at every position. Pitchers -who have been hovering around the same average age of 29 for the last 35 years - were younger in comparison to hitters through the 70s, 80s, and 90s but are now older in comparison – even though their trend has been moving slightly downward since 2004. (Dotted black line - based on the top-10 innings-pitched pitchers on each team each season) A three-year shift in the age of hitters means teams are increasingly built around the earlier contracts of players. A larger number of players at low-end salaries means even more money thrown into the fewer top-end salaries - meaning the pay gap gets bigger and bigger and the already-dwindling MLB middle class gets even smaller. (Basically one Donald Trump on the payroll and 24 fast-food drive-through employees) To me, these changes represent a major philosophical shift in the way baseball teams now make decisions but no one seems to be talking about it. A three-year shift in the average age of players is huge.
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Bat Flips: More Controversial Than PEDs and The Wave?
Teflon commented on Twins and Losses's blog entry in Twins and Losses
I also think middle infielders should get to yank out second base and spike it every time they turn a double play. That would be cool. -
Article: What Happened To Oswaldo Arcia?
Teflon replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Dealing a player with more value than Arcia both with the bat and the glove (Plouffe) so Arcia can have a roster spot as a right-hand only platooned DH is about as beneficial a roster move as Gardy insisting on carrying three catchers. -
Article: What Happened To Oswaldo Arcia?
Teflon replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Arcia's poor play has actually been fortunate for the Twins this year in that it has enabled ample playing time for Rosario and another chance to look at Hicks - both of whom can also field their positions. -
Article: Twins Have Been Broken Since The Break
Teflon replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
It seems less likely that a breakdown by every Twins starting pitcher has occurred at the same time than it does that an overall pitching approach that worked earlier is no longer effective. Any observations for or against this? -
Article: Will The Twins Ever Hit Again?
Teflon replied to Parker Hageman's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Wouldn't that make Mauer the rich man's Doug Mientkiewicz? I think Doug Mientkiewicz was already the poor man's Doug Mientkiewicz.- 45 replies
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Article: Will The Twins Ever Hit Again?
Teflon replied to Parker Hageman's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Stranger than fiction - other Beth Correia Twins hitting coincidences: "Correia" in Portuguese means "belt." If a Twins player belted one to left field you would say he "Correia'ed" it . (or you could say nobody on the Twins has Correia'ed it lately.) Coincidentally, the Twins once had a player named Portugal. http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mr0MtMFHXCluk4_IAQz86Pg.jpg Bethe Correia was born on June 22nd, 1983 - a day that current Twins hitting coach Tom Brunansky slugged a home run off Dave Steib in Exhibition Stadium to raise his average to over .200 on the season. Len Whitehouse and Ron Washington also played in that game and only four years later in 1987 Brunansky and the Twins would earn a trip to the "White House" which is in "Washington." http://img.beckett.com/news/news-content/uploads/2011/10/front-1.jpg Kevin Correia was once in the Twins lineup and got a hit. (July 12th 2014) Coincidentally, Kevin Correia was also once in the Twins lineup and got a win. Opponents routinely "Correia'ed" Correia's offerings all over the ballpark.- 45 replies
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Article: His Name Is Walker. Adam Brett Walker
Teflon replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
And if we traded him to Texas, he'd be "Walker, Texas Ranger" http://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/chuckpunch1.gif?w=780 -
Great Seasons You May Have Forgotten – 19 year-old Wally Bunker
Teflon commented on Teflon's blog entry in Blog Teflon
Here is Bunker's page at Baseball Reference: Wally Bunker He pitched regularly in the Oriole's rotation through 1966 and part-time in 1967 and 1968 as recurring arm troubles cost him regular starts. The Orioles won the American League pennant in 1966 and played the Dodgers in the World Series, led by a surprisingly young rotation comprised of 20 year-old Jim Palmer (15-10), 23 year-old Dave McNally (13-6), 21 year-old Wally Bunker (10-6) and 28 year-old Steve Barber. (10-5) Bunker started game 3 in the World Series tossing a 6-hit shutout in Baltimore. In the top of the 8th, with the only scoring up to that point being a 5th inning solo home run by the Orioles' Paul Blair, the Dodgers got the tying run in scoring position when pinch hitter Tommy Davis singled for the pitcher Claude Osteen and Maury Wills sacrificed him to second. Bunker got Wes Parker to pop out to shortstop Luis Aparico and Willie Davis to ground out to second baseman Davey Johnson to end the threat in the 8th, however, and then set down the Dodgers' 4-5-6 hitters in the 9th for a complete game 1-0 win. When the Orioles returned to the postseason in 1969, Bunker was not a member of the team. He had been claimed in the expansion draft by the Kansas City Royals and actually threw the first pitch in that team's history. (April 8th, 1969) Wally pitched well -if under the radar - that year going 12-11 for a team that only won 69 games. He led the Royals in starts, innings pitched and even managed to save two games in relief, despite the arm ailments that had limited his starts the two seasons prior. He was not so resilient in 1970, making only 15 starts and suffering through a miserable 2-11 season. He tried to pitch again for the Royals in 1971 but only threw 32 innings before his season (and career) came to a close at the age of 26. In Googling Bunker, I discovered that he and his wife write children's books and are artists in residence at a Nature Resort in South Carolina - which sounds like a satisfying second career after baseball.- 3 comments
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Great Seasons You May Have Forgotten – 19 year-old Wally Bunker
Teflon posted a blog entry in Blog Teflon
http://www.vintagecardprices.com/pics/1830/166907.jpg After making his debut as an 18 year-old for the Baltimore Orioles in the final game of 1963, right-handed pitcher Wally Bunker earned a spot in the Orioles starting rotation in May of 1964 and pitched a 1-hitter in his first start of the season. The teenager from San Bruno, California surrendered no earned runs in his next start and a single run in the next (all complete games) eventually extending his winning streak to six consecutive starts before losing to Camilo Pasqual and the Twins on June 7th. Blessed with outstanding run support on the season, (The O’s scored 5.11 per game in Bunker’s starts, 3.99 in all others), Bunker’s tidy 2.69 ERA translated to 19 wins and only 6 losses in 29 starts, pacing the American League in win percentage. While not an overpowering thrower, (4.0 K’s per 9) Bunker still limited opponents to only 161 hits over 214 innings in 1964, translating to a .207 batting average against. Unfortunately for Bunker, the Twins' Tony Oliva was also a rookie in 1964 and Wally finished a distant second in Rookie of the Year voting to Oliva, the American League batting champion that year. Bunker also received votes in the MVP balloting, finishing 12th behind teammate Brooks Robinson. Bunker became (and remains) the youngest player to ever receive MVP votes.- 3 comments
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Article: What To Make Of Mike Pelfrey
Teflon replied to Parker Hageman's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The Twins advanced metrics team likes that Pelfrey nearly always has a low earned runs total per hour pitched. -
How Did Kirby Puckett Become A Power Hitter?
Teflon replied to Parker Hageman's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
It's hard to fathom Bill James - a man who usually applies logical rigor to his suppositions - making casual steroid aspersions regarding Gaetti and Puckett. What's even more surprising is that James singled out a year that Gaetti followed a 5-HR season with 20 HRs as suspicious when anyone looking at the back of a bubblegum card could see that Gaetti had actually hit 20+ HRs each of his first two seasons before the sudden drop. Gaetti's lack of homeruns in 1984 was actually the aberration - which received ink in the local papers that year. Oh but Gaetti had acne and was balding. Ever take a close look at your hometown Royals, Bill? Doesn't Steve "Bye-Bye" Balboni's complexion or hairline seem a bit suspicious, too? Or how about the year George Brett amazingly went from 7 homeruns in 645 at-bats to 22 homeruns in 80 fewer at-bats the next? http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/115/115-362Fr.jpg Also - if this wasn't a steroid rage, what was it? -
Article: The Best 25 GMs In History: #25 Andy MacPhail
Teflon replied to Kevin's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
MacPhail was less risk-averse than his successors - much to his credit. I cite a couple of examples. One was the contract he gave Morris to sign in 1991. $3 million the first year and then player-controlled options the next two. (Who does that?) A good season and Morris likely walks away. A bad season - like the 18-loss season he just had in 1990 - and you're stuck for two more. You better hope hope a.) you get that one good year and b.) if you do, you don't squander it. The second was the next year, 1992. To replace Morris, MacPhail makes a deal for Pirates 20-game winner John Smiley who was only on a 1-year contract with Pittsburgh. It cost the Twins prospects Midre Cummings and Denny Neagle. Smiley goes 16-9 in that one year, the Twins win 90 but lose the division by 6 games. Smiley exits for Cincinnati and Neagle goes on to have a solid career for the Pirates and Braves and to make two all-star teams. In hindsight, probably not a deal you'd make again - but at the time the very deal you wanted him to make, A couple other MacPhail moves I also want to highlight that weren't mentioned are finding Brian Harper - who was a significant offensive upgrade at catcher over Laudner, Butera, Salas, Nieto et al, and the selection of the underrated Shane Mack in the Rule 5 draft.- 12 replies
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Article: Finding a New Pitching Coach
Teflon replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Any new pitching coach the Twins hire can immediately improve the pitching staff by convincing Ryan and Molitor that outfield defense is indeed important. Put actual "defenders" out there with more speed than Josh WIllingham, more experience than Danny Santana, better instincts than Chris Parmelee and more common sense than Oswaldo Arcia and watch how much the ERA improves.

