I never said meh pitcher. I said pitcher. I'd do kirriloff, any starting pitcher in the minors, Garver, and a throw in. I don't think I do Lewis and kiriloff, but even that is tempting. It depends on how much they believe in Buxton and Sano. If they don't really believe in them, then I don't do this at all, and sell everything instead. But I tend to work from an abundance mentality in trades, that what you are trading for, and giving up, has value. Maybe it's naive, or fandom, but I have not given up on Sano or Buxton, and I believe in Realmuto.