Yup, we can't really know...... but, I'm not interested in tons of number 5 starters, which is what the Twins had in the minors most recently. I have no idea if some of them could have been RPs.....to me, Taylor Rodgers is the perfect example. He was never going to be a legit MLB starter. I don't know enough about the two you mention, yet, to have a firm opinion. But, they don't scream 4 pitch mix guys with really good stuff.