Thanks rosterman....I predict some will like those results, and some will not. My point on these boards is consistent, if you refuse to pay market rates for top talent, you have to be far superior than other teams in drafting to be successful, you have to spend more on scouts. You have to leave no stone unturned. You have to be aggressive in pursuit of amateurs and minor leaguers. They are not any of that under Ryan, IMO. If your strategy revolves around drafting and developing, you have to be awesome at it, even if you are not picking in the top 5. Or, you have multiple seasons with 90 plus losses with few young good players n the roster to even offer hope. Basically, they failed to execute their strategy at the end of Ryan's first term. The low minors looks good for 2015 and beyond, but man, that is a betting on everything working.