Hughes, Gibson, Pelfrey, Santana, May, Nolasco, Milone are all in front of him. Berrios might be in front of him. In a year or 2, more will be him or better. When will he provide value as a starter, in all likelihood? At best, he'll be a 5th/spot starter the next few years (or, they are in REAL trouble if he is a top 3 starter for this team, that means a lot of the above are bad or hurt). His value to THIS team, is either as trade bait, or a RP.