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  1. Maybe it is group think but I like that order. Not sure about Kolek anymore but he has been top three or four the whole time so no need to have doubts now. I still think Newcomb and Touki should be higher than Gordon but lot's of experts disagree. I like the idea of going Pitcher as I don't see us back in the top five for a long time. Maybe top 10 but I think the 90 lose seasons are over and there is too much talent coming up to go back there anytime soon.
  2. To me it says they know he can play second base and want to see what he can do at SS. It also suggests that moving Dozier off of second is unlikely and Polanco looks to have a very good hit tool. They must feel he has a better shot beating someone out at short or want ot foster his ability to start in a utility role for the MLB club. I agree with you I don't think the Twins see Polanco as a high end defensive SS.
  3. I guess you win on this one as google has let me down and I cannot back up my claim. I swear I saw potential All-Star defense on at least one if not two but perhaps I was dreaming as I cannot find it. Or maybe I jumped to that conclusion as he was rated 65 or 70 for fielding, arm and speed which lead one to believe potential All-Star defense. Most say he is the best infield prospect in this draft and the biggest question mark is his hit tool. He gets high marks for his make up and bloodlines for what ever that is worth. Seems high to be ranked 3,4, or 5th best prospect in this draft and it seems he is ranked higher than Jackson so maybe this is just a Shortstop value thing. I don't know. I just don't know why you would take a SS that high if he wasn't All-Star caliber. Barring one of the top three pitchers falling to the Twins they are going to pick Gordon. Maybe I am looking for excuses to like him.
  4. I know I saw All-Star defense on a few scouting reports and then various ideas about his bat. I tend to agree with you Mike. Most boards have him top 5 and really fairly solid as third or fourth best prospect. He has to be there for a reason and to be ranked that high he would need to project All-Star level. I don't know why I don't love the pick and I like Jackson better but the evaluators seem to love Gordon so who am I to argue with the experts.
  5. I see quite a bit of TR in that article but the A's take things to a whole other level with Platoon splits, statistical analysis, and overall philosophy. The more interesting thing to me about the article is that many of the things the A's do have been discussed here at TD as solutions. Granted not all of us agree but Platoon's and better bench management have been discussed here multiple times. Giving up on or not giving up on players has been discussed as well as age and its impact on performance. I am sure I could go on and on. The one fatal flaw with Money ball though is it hasn't produced a WS champion. Overall they might have the best team record wise but is that enough? It seems you still need a couple of ace pitchers and special bat or two to get you there. Maybe the A's have that team this year but I doubt it.
  6. gee whizz TR, thanks for calling me out on the take pitching with the first pick comment. He must have known I would be reading this post. I think they will have a good draft. Glad to see TR is on the mend.
  7. To be honest I am not a May believer. I feel like his fastball lacks movement and he doesn't consistently throw enough strikes. He seemed like RP material to me. Not sure what has changed but he has really pitched well recently. I have to say he is surprising me right now but I do expect a meltdown in the not too distant future. I hope he makes me eat crow.
  8. Looking at it more objectively today Gordon grades out the best at #5 and meets as organizational need. Law has him #4 in his top 100 so taking him at #5 is not a reach. He has solid All-Star potential which is what you look for in a top pick. He is a good pick. It's just that we will never buy an Ace pitcher on the open market so we have to develop one or two to make the playoffs. It is rare to find one so you need lot's of chances to find one. The high velocity and polished arms go first. You don't get to pick high that often so it seems to make sense to go pitcher at the top. Also the Twins haven't pitched well in so long that all I want is arms and then focus on position players. We have to find pitching to make it to the playoffs and WS. Granted if they get Gordon we have Sano, Buxton, Gordon, Dozier, Pinto, Arcia, Mauer, Rosario who hopefully will all grade out as very good to All Star. Not to mention Polanco, Santana, Vargas, Harrison, Kepler and ABW3 to fill in as well. That should be a pretty strong group that is on the way. Will our pitching develop as well? I hope so.
  9. I think this sounds about right. It would be hard to pass on a likely All-Star defensive shortstop with a decent chance to have a good hit tool. Personally I like Newcomb the left handed power arm better but the Twins can still probably find a high risk high reward pitcher in the second round but not a SS. It is also a safe approach as position players in the high rounds tend to be less risky. Gordon sounds like a Twins pick. I get it but would like to see the first two picks be pitchers.
  10. I think I agree with you here. Is the 5th pick going to be much better than say the 15th? They all seem pretty equal or have fairly equal upside and downside. I guess it depends in what you value in a pick. I guess I have resigned myself to being happy with whoever the Twins take at #5. Then if it doesn't work out I will blast them for it down the line.
  11. I think the Twins have that plan already in place but it won't happen until after Gardy's contract is up. The reason they resigned him was to take on the transition years and leave the new manager in a better spot. If I had to guess once Gardy goes Ryan will move back to his consultant role. The new manger can grab whoever he wants for other coaches. There is a plan for succession you just need to be patient. Even if you changed all those coaches the team wouldn't be much better or worse than it is now. Gardy isn't a bad manager and once he and the Twins move on I suspect another team will grab him right away. I do think he has been here long enough and the team is due for a change. The players need to play, gain experience and get better. I think a lot of the changes proposed here will happen in the not too distant future. Fans are impatient and want short term results. Managers have to have faith in their players and see them through the tough times with a long term view. If you give on guys too soon you lose their potential future value as well. Bottom line is we weren't going to make the playoffs this year anyway. Does it really matter how many games above or below 500 we are? I know it is a fine line as the team has to perform to get fans to come to games but I also think playing the young guys and getting them experience is the better investment for the Twins right now. Hopefully they try and get some kind of value for the vets they have and move on to the younger players.
  12. I hadn't thought about that but you might be right. Could be a dangerous pick if he won't sign.
  13. Yeah that was my thinking as well. He throws hard but will his arm hold up and can he develop quality secondary pitches? There's a lot of questions there. The upside is also high though as not many pitchers can throw that hard. It would be a gamble to take him for sure.
  14. I kind of like Freeland as well. I guess Newcomb and TT might have more upside but I like how Freeland attacks the zone, has good velocity and is a lefty who can miss bats. The competition he up against isn't as good but they said the same thing about Buxton. I like Freeland at #5 a lot, but then again I like almost any pitcher at #5.
  15. OK so if Gordon and Jackson are gone what pitcher would likely fall to us? Kolek or Rodon or Aiken?
  16. Looks like Houston likes how things played out two years ago. Top pick of a position player then go for high risk, high reward pitching later in the draft with extra picks and extra money. Kind of sounds very Twins like. The better safe than sorry approach. There is a lot of solid pitching depth in this draft so that strategy might work quite well this year. If they do take Gordon then I guess I should stop questioning why the Twins would take him. It appears Gordon is the wild card pick in the top 5 now. I guess most teams scouts must believe he will hit in the future or are at least prepared to take that risk vs a pitcher's arm breaking down or not reaching their potential. So if Gordon isn't there at 5 does Jackson or one of the top three pitchers fall to us? Will we go pitcher over Jackson if he is there 5?
  17. I tend to agree with Bowden. The Twins need pitching depth more than position players. It would be a nice safe pick to go with Gordon and pitchers bust frequently but without great pitching we won't be an elite team. Maybe Gordon will turn out like Buxton and I will have to eat crow yet again. I just hope we can find elite pitchers and as many as possible until we get dominant rotation.
  18. Maybe I am pitcher biased. Gordon is very good and most mocks have him going in the top 10. Most scouting reports I have read say he likely has all-star defense and then some like his potential bat better than others. I am no scout and in the past I have often been wrong about certain picks. I think there is a good chance he will succeed but how much better will he be over Vielma or some other guy we already have I am not sure? Sure you can never have enough of any type of player and I probably stated that poorly. I just want to see better pitchers over almost anything else they can do. Even if it meant a few average or sub par position players I think better pitching will help this team more than any other investment. Certainly BPA is the way to go and they proved that with Buxton but I don't think Gordon is the BPA at 5 unless you need a SS. I like Jackson better at 5 than Gordan and as I stated earlier I think there are pitchers that would work at number 5 as well. They are riskier than the Gordan pick but have greater potential as well in my opinion. The Twins have done well the past few drafts. I just have a personal bias for pitching that I can admit clouds my judgement.
  19. The pick will be Gordon but I would prefer a pitcher. I don't see Gordon hitting well enough but obviously the Twins do. I think we have the position players we need for the foreseeable future but we need great pitching and pitching depth to make it to the world series. We should continue to invest in pitching with the first two picks. Go position player crazy after that.
  20. I don't think there is a question that KC was likely going to lose that trade. Most everyone in baseball thought that the Rays got the better end of the deal. The Rays don't make bad trades. Although the trade put KC in a win now approach when they weren't ready I fail to see how Will Myers was going to lead them to the playoffs. It was a huge risk pinned on the hope that the offense would improve slightly and with better pitching push them close to a playoff spot and with some baseball god luck push them into the playoffs. It was a faith based approach that most everyone outside KC couldn't see happening. It failed miserably but did get them over 500 for a change. As a fan I can understand why Moore did it. They have been down so long and needed a winning season. Something to change the perpetual loser mantra. A way to give the fans a watchable season. As an analyst the move made little sense. They can't afford to pay to keep players for long and there core is getting older. The team appears to have some solid pitching prospects coming up and they could have used Myers years to start rebuilding the roster. One player isn't going to make or break the Royals but in the long run like most everyone predicted they would have been better off not making that trade unless of course Myer never makes it.
  21. I agree I hated watching Gomez chase fastballs low and away out of the strike zone. Heck just keep throwing the ball there and he would strike himself out. It took him forever to try and lay off of those. I lived with the hope he would get better because of his speed and defense but when the Twins traded him for Hardy I was more than ready to see him leave. Now I want him back, boy was I wrong about him never figuring it out. Question is though how long are you going to wait?
  22. Unfortunately I was a believer in the Pelfrey signing. I really believed that after TJ surgery and the recovery time that he would approach his career averages or better. I was Rah, Rah about him despite evidence to the contrary. Given how he has pitched in recent years I shouldn't be surprised by his performance, but I just had a feeling he was going to be better than this. I really am struggling to understand how he could be this bad. Even worse than last year? I am jumping on the Deduno bandwagon as I think he gives the team a better chance right now and into the future. Sorry big P but I am losing faith.
  23. Pretty excited about all those guys. Hard to judge Slegers because he seems like he might be a level below where he should be but nice to see him dominating. Biggest concern would be Lee as he doesn't have the K numbers you would like to see. Seems a likely 5th starter unless things change. Also that jump from high A to AA seems to take extra talent or you get washed out. Nice ERA but I would say he has a lot of work to do. Nice to see three quality starters in AAA. Lets hope some of the guys in AA figure things out soon as well. I was a big Darnell fan last year and am happy to see him doing even better this year. Future pitching is looking brighter for the Twins.
  24. Thank you for explaining that to me. Then I agree with you that as long as the years of control are the same, arbitration is arbitration and they should pay him what he is worth. I just didn't want to lose any years of control because if he is as good as we think he will be, I doubt our owners will outbid other teams for his services and with Boras who knows if he will cut us a deal to buy more years or not. Once deemed ready bring him up and lets see what we've got.
  25. According to this article if you wait it out and don't go super 2 you get 6.8 years versus 6. When it comes to waiting it appears you need to decide if you are ready to compete now or if you are rebuilding. There is no hard and fast rule and I think if Meyer continues to pitch like he has, the pressure will be strong to bring him up. I think he is the best pitcher the Twins have had in a long time and I would like him to be here as long as possible. I realize Correia is a placeholder but I don't think the Twins will just DFA him unless things get even worse. They will need time to try and trade him or make room for Meyer in some way. I think that is likely June but I have been wrong many times before. If something happens sooner Meyer will have to be the catalyst that changes minds in the Front office. http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100506&content_id=9840460&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
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