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  1. Yeah but given the way the young bats were slumping or at least very inconsistent along with only two viable starting pitching options those odds appeared pretty long in July. I really think you have a bit too much 20\20 here. It felt a lot more probable that things would go in the tank than even out IMO. I know a lot of people on this board felt the FO gave up on the season when they traded Kintzler. Even the players seemed to feel the same way if I remember correctly. Knowing what I know now would I rather have Kintzler? Probably, but even if we still had him i doubt it would make much difference in the end. I would, however, have liked to give this team the best chance possible to pull out a wildcard win and if the game is close he is a big asset. I really think this comes down to whether you want to play the long or short game. I get that we have been playing the long game forever and some success was needed but for me I still like what the FO did. I like Watson's potential and the potential we can buy with $500,000 in international money. In the end things worked out and the team made the post season and will have a measure of success. To me it looks like a win, win.
  2. Awesome article! You always felt these guys had what it takes and I remember you being quite perturbed that the Twins traded at the deadline and kind of gave up on the season. Well things worked out both ways for a change.
  3. Dman

    82-74

    My bad I missed that.
  4. For the most part I like what the FO has done this year. I like that they took time to see what they had and made changes where they saw needs. I liked what they did at the trade deadline. Granted the returns weren't incredible but it was better than getting nothing for those guys. At the time it seemed pretty unrealistic to me based on the numbers and past history that this team would make the playoffs. I was for the long term view the FO had all the way. I know there were several people on this board that did not feel that way (I am thinking of Mr Bonnes in particular) and kuddos to them for being right that this team had what it takes to get to the playoffs. They were the "true" believers. I was not one of them. Bottom line is through the "process" luck or whatever, they still got returns at the deadline and the team made the playoffs so in my mind that is true genius or at least good fortune. Having said all that the FO knows what they have now so next year they need to find a way to improve the rotation and solidify the pen. They have a good group of core players. The window is often short. I hope they are up to the task.
  5. Dman

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    Dave since I am always willing to call you out on your bluster I have to give you props on your prediction. Took some balls to go against the grain and the numbers buy it looks like you were more right than anyone else.
  6. I tend to agree with you. If the "math" supports that they are the best team because of season record then they should have no problem dispensing a wild card team. Teams change and grow through a season. A young team might be bad to start the season and be better at the end of the season. A team might face injuries and get players back and just make the wild card. There are lot's of reasons a team's season record might not be that great but the team is better at the end of season. Granted the playoff format creates a different set of strengths and weaknesses for teams, but since all teams do not play each other an equal number of times it seems the playoffs are the best way to settle the answer of who is the best in a given year.
  7. A single win in the Cleveland series would make me feel a lot better but given the state of the Tigers you have to like our chances right now. A couple of tough loses for the other teams is all it takes for them to be eliminated. I like our chances but like a lot of Minnesotans I never take anything for granted and the baseball gods can be cruel. I am rooting for them and am excited that they have a very good chance to make the playoffs. There have been some really tough years would be nice to see this team in the post season.
  8. I felt that Rodriguez was the real difference maker for Chattanooga. He seemed to come up with big hits when they needed them. He made that lineup very tough at the top with Gordon and Wade as table setters his bat was very important to their success. Happy to see him get some recognition.
  9. Yep I think they will just keep him as well. They can't seem to get decent value in trade for him so might as well ride it out. They can gauge his market value after next season and decide if they want to keep him or run with another young guy.
  10. Fun read! I have been watching the box scores for those guys all year. A lot of slumps after the break but I agree the bats seem to be back. Let's hope the pitching holds and they should be dangerous in the playoffs.
  11. I like all of those guys even Vielma who is having a down year with the stick. Unfortunately I don't know if I have enough confidence in any of them to feel comfortable trading away Gordon. Palacios is back but just one year removed from a terrible year at the plate. Lewis is not a lock to stick at short and I like him better as a center fielder myself. If he continues to do well at short my opinion could change. Wander seems solid but he is pretty far away as well. With the exception of Vielma all of those guys look like they could have well rounded offensive upside, but they all seem to have questions when it comes to defense. If the Twins could get a decent return for Escobar or Dozier or both that would allow for us to have the years of control for Gordon or Palacios instead of trading that away. Thing is the Twins are on the cusp of having a good team next year so I see them keeping both of those guys. If they lose Dozier after 2018 then they have Gordon to slide in and he should definitely be ready by 2019 so I think they will keep Gordon. Not sure how they plan to upgrade pitching but I don't see them trading Gordon to get it.
  12. He looked good in A ball but never had another season that looked that good. The Twins gave him plenty of time to prove he belonged but there are just too many guys that are more athletic and hit better than he does. It was time to let him go. Hate to see a dream die but he made it further than a lot of guys do.
  13. So with the Cedar Rapids win does that mean all the affiliates will have winning records this year? Is there a chance that all the affiliates will qualify for the playoffs? Pretty fun year to follow all the teams. Typically the talent pools up in two maybe three leagues but not all. I wonder if there has ever been a year like this one for the Twins affiliates?
  14. MIranda and Bechtold were really hot to start the season and have cooled some recently. Wander has really come on with the bat lately as well. Some really talented young hitters are gonna end up in Cedar Rapids next year.
  15. I can't believe the Lookouts came back and won. After the Rosario debacle I totally had them losing that game. It has been a magical season for that group this year. They just need to win the championship to finish this off right.
  16. I am very surprised. I figured they would leave in A+ the rest of the year and start him in AA next year. HIs number are good but he seemed to have control issue's so I thought they would leave him especially since AA has a solid rotation as it is. I wonder if they moved him to make room for other promotions to come?
  17. It is exciting to see all the affiliates doing so well. I am not sure what correlation or causation can be gleaned from the win loss record though. As we all know the affiliates are more about player development than winning records and prospects are more about potential (future results) than current results. I think an argument can be made that the Twins have fantastic roster balance among their affiliates but according to most evaluators’ average talent in their system. Most affiliates have 3 to 4 really good hitters a really good pitcher or two and all of them seem to have a pretty dominant bullpen. The exception being Chattanooga who has had really good pitching 1-5 most of the year and it shows. If we are winning it seems obvious that we have good players but if the losing teams have just a couple of super star players at each level and lose a lot they are still better off than we are. I’m not trying to diminish what the affiliates have accomplished this year. Frankly I have been amazed at how well they’ve all done. I just don’t know how to quantify what that gives us other than likely a lot of good players that can’t make the jump to MLB. Winning feels a lot better than losing and I am hopeful that a lot of these players make there way to MLB. I like having a balanced system. I just hope we produce some super star players as well.
  18. Don't forget Bechtold. He has cooled recently but I think he is only 20 years old as well. Seems to have a good eye makes contact. Add Kirolof to your grouping and you have a darn tough lineup.
  19. Yeah I pretty much lost this argument big time already.
  20. Really all statistics are flawed. Numbers can only tell us so much. We can measure what happened and establish trends but we can never predict exactly what will happen in the future in baseball. Personally I found the way Seth manipulated the stats helpful. Belisle has gotten a bit of a bad rap after pitching poorly after being overused. Taking out the few awful games he has had shows us he has been more consistent than most are giving him credit for. While his averages don’t look great more often than not he has been successful in his role. I think sometimes stats can take us down the wrong road. Look at run differential. Based on that you would think the Twins should be behind KC and Detroit and yet they are ahead of both teams. So while run differential might be able to tell us the depth of talent a team has it can’t tell us what team might win a particular series very well at all. While it is flawed to take Seth’s comparison to other pitchers without taking out their bad games, I don’t think it is flawed at all in showing us just how consistently good Belisle has been in the majority of games he has played.
  21. Those stats jive with my memory. I think he was over used early in the season. I don't think that is the way Washington used him. I think given proper usage he will perform better. Glad to see him turn things around. Hope he keeps it up.
  22. Yeah I totally get your point which is why I tried to save myself by saying if he continue's to pitch well and if the Twins are still in the wild card hunt. I had already forgotten how many tough starts he had in the beginning. I was impressed he went 9 innings and then pitching a 7 inning shutout, he kind of shut me up with those two games. It just feels like maybe he has turned a corner. We could certainly use him if he has.
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