Woof Bronzer
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I am truly sorry to be the one to tell you this, but the Twins ARE the Rockies of today. The Rockies were the only team worse than the Twins after the deadline selloff - but it was close. Before the selloff happened the Rockies won the season series from the Twins. The Twins ended 2025 on a 57-win pace. Again, it cannot be stressed enough how terrible this roster is, and it all happened under Falvey's watch.
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Lol, it's much more likely that Falvey is breathing a sigh of relief. T3 has been in charge for a few months and Derek's job is safe. If I'm Falvey I'm thinking "ah good, another Pohlad who talks about accountability but keeps doing things the same way they've always done things. Nothing to worry about." Let's think about it. Derek has 2 jobs, baseball and business ops. We know what has happened with the baseball product. 3 different Pohlads have brought on and kept on Falvey now. It's safe to assume whatever goals the Pohlads have for Falvey, he meets or exceeds them. 3 different Pohlads like what Derek does and seem quite satisfied with his performance. Obviously it isn't about winning. What could it be?
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I'm astounded at the quantity of fans who think that adding declining, replacement level players at surplus positions is suddenly going to make this team competitive. Cannot say it enough apparently: this is one of the worst rosters in baseball, and it will take multiple actual needle moving hitters - 3-5 WAR upgrades over current talent - to turn this offense into a competitor. It is a terrible, terrible use of limited resources to overspend on 0-1 WAR players.
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Tom claims to have been in charge for a month now. He showed up with Joe in a press conference in September, so likely his involvement goes at least back to then. Regardless, he has been intimately involved in the strategy discussions for this offseason. Which means Mr "I Don't Do Half Measures" was on board with....hiring one of the losingest managers in MLB history....using the Rule 5 draft not to get desperately needed relief help for this year, but a high school catcher who might sniff the majors in 8 years....signing a backup catcher who is one of the worst hitters in MLB history, and will almost certainly get 60 starts.....and spending around half of the free agent budget on the 130th best free agent who has been worse than replacement level over the last 3 years. The more things change the more they stay the same.
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The owner of a company individually investing his/her own money is much different than the company itself. It would be like saying Berkshire Hathaway is the investor vs. Warren Buffet investing his own money. So it's a lot more than splitting hairs. But to be fair I guess Charlie was at least in the ballpark.
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He can go big or go home. Commit to one or the other. SHOW us you don't believe in half measures. If they keep down the current "nibble at the edges" half-measure we will know nothing has changed and Tom is as untrustworthy as every other Pohlad. I think it's stupid to invest money in this roster, but Tom said what he said. Either back it up with some cash or be an adult and tell fans our core isn't good enough and we need to build for the future, we're going to follow the early 80s playbook of letting the kids play and hoping it pays off like in 87. That's one of the first things Carl did when he bought the team. Why not say you're coming fill circle and honoring Carl's legacy and we're building an organization that will compete for a World Series in 4 years just like in the 80s. We've done it once and we can do it again. He could also fire Falvey tomorrow. That would represent change.
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Tom said he's not about half-measures. He's a "go big or go home guy". So far they are doing a half measure. If we are to believe Tom, who says he thinks the team will compete, he'll inject about $50m to the payroll immediately. If not, we will know he is lying and isn't actually a "go big or go home guy" at all. He has said a lot of bold things that are going to live on the internet for a long time. You cannot come out and call yourself a "go big of go home guy" and then go out and sign Josh freaking Bell and a couple scrap heap relievers.
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Here's their league payroll in the decade after winning the last WS: 17th, 20, 21, 24, 23, 22, 24, 30, 30, 30, 28. I don't see much reinvestment happening in those numbers. They would have pocketed hundreds of millions of dollars in those years, which should have been more than sufficient to run $160mil-level payrolls in many years where the team had the talent to compete (06, 10, 19, etc). The fact they spent $160mil one year (the 17th largest payroll by the way, not even league average) doesn't elicit much sympathy from me I guess.
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Setting aside why the Pohlads should be believed - the entire TC business community knows the Pohlads are underwater on their commercial real estate portfolio, so it's fascinating to hear Tom continue to push the lie that it's operating debt - how many times in the past 4 decades have the Pohlads run payrolls well below what lower revenue teams spend? And of those times, how often did the Pohlads take that added profit and reinvest in the team?
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I wonder if his investors are asking themselves why they just invested in a business that is failing so spectacularly.
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The family is running out of toys to let him play with...
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I read it more as "Twins fans don't deserve a first class stadium because they don't give my family enough money."- 39 replies
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Woof Bronzer replied to Cody Christie's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
It's especially weird because Tom thinks the Twin Cities market can't support a first class ballpark, whatever that means. An interesting comment considering the Pohlad family spent years saying they needed a first class ballpark to win. A case of "I was lying then, I'm telling the truth now" I suppose. Tom Pohlad pointed to what he said is an unfavorable economic model for small- and middle-market MLB teams like the Twins. In such markets, revenues “don’t necessarily support” amenities like a first-class ballpark at Target Field or consistently putting a high-performing team together.- 39 replies
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New Details Emerge in Twins Minority Sale
Woof Bronzer replied to Cody Christie's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Unless the business is so inherently profitable, and franchise values never ever decrease, that it doesn't matter who is running things. The investors don't want to win baseball games or become long term owners. They want to make fast profit and get out.- 39 replies
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Thanks for the explanation, I had no idea defensive analytics were that silly.
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New Details Emerge in Twins Minority Sale
Woof Bronzer replied to Cody Christie's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I'd be a bit cautious in celebrating. Here's what Tommy Boy said a couple months ago. Nothing screams "we are committed to turning things around" like making excuses for the market, crying poverty, lying about the source of your debt, and then blaming fans who dare question the commitment of an ownership group who took the most successful Twins playoff run in decades and decided to "rightsize" the team down to one of the worst teams in MLB.- 39 replies
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Publicly known data proves this isn't accurate. You stated their gate was $84 mill. Their revenue share is $200 mil. That's $284m in revenue without factoring in tv, radio, advertising, merchandise, naming rights, all the other ways pro sports teams get revenue. You think all of that totals $8.4 mil in revenue? I don't. You seem to be doing an awful lot of work trying to prove, without actual data, that MLB teams lose money. I'm legitimately curious as to why?

