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Sure, building the bullpen would help. How do you do that with at best a minimal payroll increase, and more likely a decrease? Trade bad relievers for better ones? Good luck. Trade hitters for relievers? Now you've got to add more offense without adding payroll.
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They went from around a 75 win team to a 57 win team in 2 months after he "improved" the team. If his plan was to make the 25 team better he failed spectacularly, and quite possibly pulled off the worst trade deadline of any team in the history of the sport. For his sake I hope he was lying!
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"The Chicago White Sox front office believes their roster can compete for the Central next year" still sounds bonkers. And yet the Sox were a few games better than the Twins post-deadline.
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Fair enough although I guess I'd say whatever you "see" is fine, but factually speaking the current roster played at a 57 win clip after the trade deadline. Whether or not that "feels" right, those are the actual results this roster has produced. Results matter. Again, we've been through this before....literally last offseason. Falvey "saw" a roster that was better than the actual performance of the team and decided to "run it back" and hope for better results. But of course, maybe THIS time it'll work...
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Ah yes, noted truth teller Derek Falvey, who claimed that the deadline sell off wasn't a fire sale but an intentional effort to improve the 2025 team. We should definitely take his word salad on everything.
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I don't know if that's encouraging. Help me figure out this equation: 60 win current roster + ??? (with little if any payroll increase, and possible a decrease) = 80-90 win roster needed to "compete" Can you fill in the ??? The Twins FO thought the 24 team was good enough to compete in the Central, so that's how they approached last offseason. It is extremely alarming to hear them consider doing the same thing this offseason and expecting different results. I am extremely discouraged by this reporting. It feels like the FO is as delusional as some of the fan base as to the quality of this roster. It pains me to keep saying it but this is one of the worst rosters in the game. Consider the insanity of this statement: "The Nationals front office believes the team is talented enough to compete in 2026." If they actually said this they would get laughed out of the room. The Twins were 3 games worse than the Nats after the deadline.
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Appreciate it. I don't know that I can get there, but I respect that you can. There is a path, that is very much true. I'm trying to be less cynical these days. But yep, I will not be placing World Series bets on the 26 Twins either!
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I really want to believe this. But logic keeps getting in the way. How does worst team in baseball + a few scrap heap pickups (in the best case scenario)OR a further selloff as is being rumored = "closer than almost everybody thinks"? I just don't understand. I can see a healthier Lopez being worth a few more wins...otherwise what could be different about 26 than in 25? Doesn't this feel like doing the same thing and expecting different results? Help me understand, o wise one!
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There are 2 things you can count on in Minnesota: snow in December, and Fangraphs being extremely wrong about the Twins in their projections.
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Totally agree with this. And that's not to say that I like it, or agree with it, or think this is the best strategy. But the Pohlads are clearly cutting costs whether we like it or not. So if the choices are, "try" to "compete" by signing cheap washed up vets and keeping the kids down in the minors, or commit to a full rebuild and hope in 3-4 years we are actual contenders, I'm taking the latter every day.
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5 Best Suitors in Byron Buxton Trade Rumors
Woof Bronzer replied to Eric Blonigen's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
They only got one Top 100,000 prospect for Correa and that didn't stop the Twins from trading him. -
Passan: Buxton Willing To Waive No-Trade Clause
Woof Bronzer replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Yeah I mean the debt is preventing the team from being sold and it is driving their plan to cut payroll and let the welfare flow in, so it has everything to do with the team's operations right now, even if the debt service isn't technically showing up on the Twins payroll. -
Passan: Buxton Willing To Waive No-Trade Clause
Woof Bronzer replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
The "current core" was the worst team in baseball post deadline. -
Passan: Buxton Willing To Waive No-Trade Clause
Woof Bronzer replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
More like, for years the Pohlads used the Twins as a debt shelter to hide the costs of their mismanagement/incompetency/lack of foresight. They doubled down on commercial real estate when even pre COVID the writing was on the wall for that market, and continuing to double down through COVID, so now they are stuck with a huge portfolio of underperforming real estate assets. They had to eat massive losses on Bring Me The News and B96, the 2 media properties that Joe Pohlad destroyed. They likely still have some Target Field debt on the books too - billionaires hate paying for things with their own money. But because the Twins books are private, the shell games they've been playing never came to light. But, as a result of their chronic shortsightedness, they never considered that one day they might want to sell the team, and that the debt would come to light in the sale process - or, more likely/alarming, they didn't think it was a big deal and they would still get what they wanted because they're billionaires and billionaires always get whatever they want. So here we are - stuck with an ownership group that is so grossly short-sighted and incompetent they do that they can't sell a company with a quarter billion dollars in guaranteed (subsidized) minimum annual revenues and a valuation that doubles every 10 years or so independent of performance. -
Passan: Buxton Willing To Waive No-Trade Clause
Woof Bronzer replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I don't believe the Pohlads have ever used the phrase "minority owners" and I think a lot of fans are putting a lot of stock into these mythical saviors. I suspect the limited partners are investors who will take the debt off the Twins' books to facilitate a quicker sale. With or without these investors the Pohlads are going to have to pay down the debt though, which is why I believe the plan is to run shoestring payrolls and rake in the revenue/tv shares for a few years. And the Pohlads may be getting a little nervous about the CBA throwing a wrench in this plan so I fear they are accelerating a bit. The Athletic had an interesting article the other day about the Pirates and Marlins actually going after some free agents this offseason, the thought being that their owners are worried their lack of effort will be used as evidence to support a salary floor or reduced revenue share so they are trying to demonstrate that they are trying to win. The Pohlads likely aren't willing to do that so you have to wonder what they are thinking right about now. -
Passan: Buxton Willing To Waive No-Trade Clause
Woof Bronzer replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Oh for sure, I don't care about the rankings at all. But the mere fact that someone close to Buxton wants it to be publicly known that he's open to a trade is pretty concerning. -
Passan: Buxton Willing To Waive No-Trade Clause
Woof Bronzer replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
But someone is telling Passan this he's willing to do this, and this someone gave him this information on the record, so this someone is absolutely telling Passan for a reason. Whether that is to startle the Twins to action, or to start down the path of a trade, who knows. But this does seem like this is a bit more meaningful than your typical hot stove league rumblings. -
Do biomechanics help players run the bases? Sacrifice? Play defense? Run out ground balls? Hit cutoff men? Let's work on those things too. It won't cost much, and it'll have a much stronger correlation with winning than using fancy software to increase launch angle by 2.2%.
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In a normal market, yes, but this is MLB, closer to a socialist model than a capitalist one. Franchise valuation goes upward independent of business performance. The Twins are guaranteed about $200m in revenue share and likely $50+ more from their ESPN deal. A guaranteed $250m/year in revenue even if you are the worst run business on earth, plus your valuation increases by about $40 mil/year even if you are the worst run business on earth.... I think it's really, really easy to sell this model - if you can somehow manage to spend less than a quarter billion dollars ever year, you'll rake in profits. I think most people here would be willing to take on that risk!
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Twins Add Catching Depth with Early Offseason Swap
Woof Bronzer replied to John Bonnes's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
It's less the trade than the signal. The "plan" is coming into focus: try to somehow improve an underperforming team without investing more in the roster and magically compete for the division. Take one of the 5 worst teams in MLB, sign a couple scrap heap relievers and depth pieces in January/February after all the free agency dust has settled, and viola! AL Central champs. This was the same plan last offseason, with a significantly better core roster, and it failed miserably. Basically, the plan is: do the same thing all over again and expect different results. I'm resigned to being bad next year. I just want it to mean something, to lead to bigger and better things like the young Twins teams in the early 80s. Trying to eek out a couple extra wins in 2026 by hanging onto Jeffers (and eventually maybe losing him for nothing) is a dumb strategy in my opinion.

