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  1. ThePuck
    Heck, I was just gonna wait for an answer and see what he said and then let it go, regardless of his answer. Just wanted to know how much value he put in it. I suppose next time I'll phrase it that way instead...figured he'd let me know when he answered.
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    This Plus it's a stat that should be a team stat. If wins and losses were a good stat to judge pitchers by I'd have to conclude that Phillips Hughes was a better pitcher than Felix Hernandez in the year Felix Hernandez won the CY Young (2010). Hughes went 18-8 with an ERA of 4.19 and an ERA+ of 103. Felix Hernandez went 13-12 and had an ERA of 2.27 and his ERA+ of 174. Heck, if we extend that out. Felix Hernandez was 13-12 in his CY year and Correia was 12-11 last year. If I judged by wins and losses, I'd conclude that Correia was ever so slightly worse than Felix Hernadez was the year he won the Cy Young. Wins and losses don't tell us anything when it comes to pitcher's performance...
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    He went past the 6th inning 3 times last year. 3 times out of 28 starts
  4. ThePuck
    You value the win stat?
  5. ThePuck
    what are you talking about? I didn't change anything. I originally wrote: 'Right now, when accounting for standard inflation, we're at '07 payroll. Of course, players payrolls haven't gone up by standard inflation rates...' 'I was talking about the spending power of 71M ('07 Twins payroll) now equates to the spending power of just under 80M today (current Twins salary of '13) on just standard US inflation.' Same thing..worded differently
  6. ThePuck
    Ryan says he runs everything past their main stat guy, but he says he believes in some stats and not others. In other words, if the stat guy says we shouldn't a player Ryan wants to get based on X stats, then he doesn't believe in those stats and gets him. If the stats guy says we should get a guy Ryan wants to get based on X stats, then he agrees with them. Basically, I'm gonna run it past the stats guy, but it doesn't matter what he says, I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do.
  7. ThePuck
    I was talking about the spending power of 71M ('07 Twins payroll) now equates to the spending power of just under 80M today (current Twins salary of '13) on just standard US inflation. If you wanna look at the difference in MLB pay. MLB minimumm in 2007 was 380K, to 480K in '12. MLB average pay went from $2,824,751 in '07, to 3,213,479. So, if you had a team of 25 getting paid league average in 2007, you'd sit at 70.6M. If you had a team of 25 getting paid league average in 2012, you'd have just over 80M. We were over that 80M last year, but we're under that this year so far. Since league average pay has gone up every year since 2007 (on an average of 77K a year), we're looking at league average for 2013 at about 82M. We're at just under 80M. That means we've dropped below our 2007 spending since the Twins were paying their team slightly above league average in '07 and and are now paying below even 2012 league average.
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    They didn't want to throw away a former #1 pick...he was out of options...they needed to find a spot for him
  9. ThePuck
    Years payroll went down from previous years since '99: '00, '04, '08, '12, '13. (Source: USA Today's Salaries Databases for MLB). Right now, when accounting for standard inflation, we're at '07 payroll. Of course, players payrolls haven't gone up by standard inflation rates... Just giving information.
  10. ThePuck
    He's only had like 50 something starts at shortstop in the majors...how much sooner do you think they should have seen it? I think they just hoped it'd click once he came up, cause it's not like he was very good at shortstop in the minors either.
  11. ThePuck
    Something like that :-)
  12. ThePuck
    2010? Maybe more recently, not sure.
  13. ThePuck
    Ah, I love comments like this...
  14. ThePuck
    They've been saying that about the Royals for 5, 6 years now haven't they? Bound to get it right one of these years
  15. ThePuck
    Seriously?
  16. ThePuck
    Ironically, he did his best when being caught by Doumit...small sample size all around, but still
  17. ThePuck
    'Twins general manager Terry Ryan has publicly stated that he's likely done making any more significant moves this offseason. But it doesn't mean that he's not checking in with current free agents to see if there's a match before Spring Training. The Twins still have interest in starting pitchers such as left-hander Joe Saunders, and could add another third baseman to the roster, a player such as Brandon Inge. But Ryan has said that he's happy with the current roster if they don't add any more pieces this offseason. ' Twins Inbox: Will the club add any more pieces? | twinsbaseball.com: News
  18. ThePuck
    Thought this might be about Delmon Young...he just signed with Philly :-)
  19. ThePuck
    Beane also deals with a payroll near half of ours and his team has played in a better division, for the most part. Or so it seems. Astros will drop the division difficulty for a few years :-)
  20. ThePuck
    So reasonable isn't likely? Are we just dancing around the words? I don't think it's likely we'll be contending in 2016 with a team mostly full of starters that are now currently still in the minors. I think it's far fetched. In any event, fine. I stand corrected. I misunderstood what you were saying, I was focusing on the 'likely' part. If I had seen, 'not likely' originally, that's when I don't think we'd have had this debate, but that's on me. I truly apologize.
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    Brewers did it with Hardy too...his last year with them...he got sent down for just enough time that he had 2 years left till free agency instead of one. Made him more attractive for trade.
  22. ThePuck
    It's fine, it doesn't matter if you believe me or not..or if anyone does to be honest.
  23. ThePuck
    I don't have a single minded agenda. For example, I'm not a fan of Gardy...have many issues with him...but I won't blanket slam him for everything and I'll defend him if need be. Same with Ryan. I've read your posts...I went back and read your posts..before I wrote what I did. You do spend a good amount of time defending Ryan and his actions as it comes to building the team. So, yeah, agreeing with the 2016 time frame for contention is an extension of that...since his actions seem geared towards that. Of course, you did say he should be held to what he says...without, of course, actually saying he was lying... As far as me feigning innocence or whatever, I have no reason to be dishonest...ever...on anything. I own everything I say. If I say I didn't mean something to come out the way it seemed, it's up to the person to believe or not. I can't make him believe or not, but that's not on me. I'm not going to tippy-toe around in here, though. I believe, for the most part, I'm pretty darn respectful. I get frustrated once in awhile, like most, but I pretty much stick to the standard of 'I'll only say on-line what I would say in person'
  24. ThePuck
    Not even close...but thanks...getting a condescending award from you, now that's truly something. I imagine if I was on your side of the argument, I wouldn't hear a peep. The side that defends Ryan and the Pohlads at almost every turn...in this case, by pointing to an unrealistic time frame to shoot for as a reason to do nothing for the now.
  25. ThePuck
    You DID say it's likely they'll contend in 2016...in fact, you said they'd contend for AL Central title in 2015 and 2016. On this very thread. Which is how we got started talking about it. Here's what you wrote: 2015 - Contend for AL Central - Rosario, Sano and May potentially up at some point 2016 - Contend for AL Central - core developed in '13 is in fourth full season, Berrios, Buxton, Kepler ready? Now you're saying that your 'not saying it's likely they contend in 2016, but it certainly isn't unreasonable'. If that was your view from the start, doubt we're even debating this now...cause almost anything is possible. We're talking about what's likely. I didn't think it was likely, and now you're sayign the same thing. So why are we debating? You gave one example of how it's possible as your proof to say it's reasonable we'd do it in 2016. And my question was legitimate: If you're gonna use 2012 Oakland As as your argument, why not 2013 Twins?
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