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Im not arguing with the idea of signing Youk and moving plouffe to 2nd. I mean cmon do we really want to see florimon and escobar...No frankly we do not. Carrol can hold down shortstop for the short term.

No no no no no no no no no no!!!!!!!!

Kyle Gibson started and threw five shutout innings. He gave up four hits, walked none and struckout 8! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Thats what I like to see!

What are you guys all worried about? De Rosa on a minor league deal....Whats the risk? For heavens sake we gave Zumaya 1,000,000 to throw 1 spring traning pitch!

Exactly im sure Butera can be a decent mentor. But his time as a MLB player is over. IMO we should just let him fade away into oblivion.

I think his time has passed unfortunately...

It sure would be nice to get him. Billy Beane and Crew know there stuff when it comes to getting prospects in return for anything they trade. So Im guessing it would take more than what would be required to get Johnson or Shields.

Nice start for Bigley!

If we sign one of these guys and they have success as Peter Griffin would say "Oh my god i just took a shot in the dark" haha

Yeah whoever the writer of this question is completely abandoning all hope for next year. I agree with you Seth.

Redmond would be a viable candidate for the Twins job. Does anyone else remember how much fire he played with when he actually got to play? The Twins could use some fire. Right now this team has no fire.

Who knows what the Marlins want, their team is in shambles right now, im pretty sure they could use a bit of everything. So if you look at it, if they go with a complete rebuilding project they will probably want some high end prospects both pitchers and hitters. Like you said if they want pitchers we are not getting Johnson, but if they do want a hitter we got plenty of hitting prospects to spare. IF we do trade for Johnson...there better be an extension that comes along with it.

Hopefully it gives him the ability to fine tune his mechanics and ultimately get him to the level where he can contribute for the big league club his year.

Was reading the chat today on ESPN and came across this. Hi David- Because they are rebuilding anyway, do you think the Twins should bring up Arcia and Hicks and let them play? Try to get some pitching for Span. Revere is only a fourth outfielder in my opinion he doesn't walk enough and has "0" power. Thanks! [h=6]David Schoenfield (1:44 PM) [/h] I think both could benefit from at least half a season in Triple-A. Saw both play a couple times at New Britain. Hicks still has some swing-and-miss in his game -- almost TOO patient at times and gets into pitcher's counts. Arcia is young, just doesn't have much time about Class A. But I think trading one of Span or Revere is inevitable, yes.

Was reading the chat today on ESPN and came across this. Hi David- Because they are rebuilding anyway, do you think the Twins should bring up Arcia and Hicks and let them play? Try to get some pitching for Span. Revere is only a fourth outfielder in my opinion he doesn't walk enough and has "0" power. Thanks! [h=6]David Schoenfield (1:44 PM) [/h] I think both could benefit from at least half a season in Triple-A. Saw both play a couple times at New Britain. Hicks still has some swing-and-miss in his game -- almost TOO patient at times and gets into pitcher's counts. Arcia is young, just doesn't have much time about Class A. But I think trading one of Span or Revere is inevitable, yes.

Dont remind me....only the twins.... Exactly. Like I said earlier, it took Hanley to get Josh Beckett moved. I would almost guarantee it takes Sano to get Johnson moved. The Marlins had huge reported offers this summer and didn't move him, so I doubt they'll move him without a big return. It took Gomez and Humber to get Johan... dont remind me...only the twins....

Thats what im saying. People on this board are like we can just give them Revere and Hendriks for Josh Johnson< That makes me laugh. The Marlins in no way will sell low on this guy. Odds are they will want some young stud pitcher in the minors in return....we dont have that. Shields would require Span and a top prospect.

Problem is, Vizquel could probably start for this team at either 2B or SS... This my friend.....is sadly true.

Ha this makes me excited to play some MLB the show! The offseason is an exciting time for hopes and predictions in video games and reality.

The problem is that if you trade the farm for one year of Josh Johnson, you haven't stopped the bleeding. You've simply postponed it for one season, after which you'll be worse off than you were before that point. 100% Agree with this. Do we really think the twins will be a contender next year with Josh Johnson? This team has many holes. More than likely Johnson will not give the Twins a discount just because he is from here when it comes to an extension. He will be looking for that big paycheck like most other MLB Players. Not all MLB players have loyalty like Joe Mauer.

This i do agree with. Just wont be with the Twins.

If the Twins could get Shields for Span and Johnson for Revere plus a couple low prospects, do both deals and let Mastroianni handle CF until Hicks is ready. Really? I can see maybe Span and a mid level prospect for Shields. But Revere for Johnson? First of all the Marlins need pitching just as bad as we do. Why would they give up their ACE? Seems like a lot of people on here are under the belief that when you throw a quarter in a wishing well their dreams will come true. Well hey everyone....WE ARE NOT GETTING JOSH JOHNSON. Shields is a possibility but i cant see that either. they have Desmond Jennings groomed for center field, Zobrist who can play left or right, and Matt Joyce as well. They (the Marlins) might need pitching as bad as we do, but if they see a chance to improve their team (ala Johan Santana except actually getting valued prospects), then 8.5/10 you take the deal. If we give them (the Rays) Span, they can put Jennings on the bench, where his stats really say he should belong if a Denard Span came along, not to mention the defensive stability going from B.J. Upton to a guy like Span. How do you improve your team by trading your ACE for Ben Revere? That doesnt make to much sense. Maybe they would take a trade Such as Revere and Arcia and another mid level prospect for Josh Johnson. Dont get me wrong I like Revere, but there is no way the Marlins sell low on Johnson, there team will not be improved by moving their ACE for a 3rd/4th OF. So one bad year from Jennings you think the Rays will give up on him? I dont believe that is so. Just last year he was regarded as a top prospect in the game.

If the Twins could get Shields for Span and Johnson for Revere plus a couple low prospects, do both deals and let Mastroianni handle CF until Hicks is ready. Really? I can see maybe Span and a mid level prospect for Shields. But Revere for Johnson? First of all the Marlins need pitching just as bad as we do. Why would they give up their ACE? Seems like a lot of people on here are under the belief that when you throw a quarter in a wishing well their dreams will come true. Well hey everyone....WE ARE NOT GETTING JOSH JOHNSON. Shields is a possibility but i cant see that either. they have Desmond Jennings groomed for center field, Zobrist who can play left or right, and Matt Joyce as well.

There is so many conflicting reports about whats happening with this situation!

congrats to him!