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  1. Yeah the price for Shark is reasonable, rental price or no, and is like Laroche a lot at his price. All that said, I wouldn't declare this anything more than an aggressive, interesting set of moves because we've seen these same moves fail often. Personally I prefer an organization that operates closer to the middle of those two poles you speak of. I see some smart ideas in both, but often carried too far.
  2. Yup, a lot of Twins fans do it with the Tigers too and it's just not the right way to approach this. The reverse is also true - just because a team is aggressive doesn't mean they've automatically done the right thing either. I get that people want to fawn over a way of doing things that contrasts with what we are accustomed, but that doesn't make it sounds strategy. The moves the Sox have made are aggressive and interesting, but they've had trouble fitting these sorts of moves together for some time. That's the real key. But not every evaluation of another team needs to keep coming back to a compare and contrast with the Twins. That's unnecessary and sidetracking.
  3. Since it had nothing to do with my point, not really. Kudos to them for their aggression, but we've seen these same moves flop for them many times. So I always treat them as very wait and see.
  4. Where, at any point, did I compare the White Sox to the Twins?
  5. 1) Given the rumored package I think there is absolutely no contingency that Shark has to sign an extension. You wouldn't be getting him for this discounted price if it didn't come with a ton of risk. It's still a reasonable gamble, but it's more than likely a rental. 2) I love the post above that says this is just what the Sox do. In 2010 it was Dunn and Crain. They've also traded for Peavy and made all sorts of other moves over the years that didn't pan out in much. We're ten years removed from the flukey run to the World Series (credit to them, this system did pay off spectacularly once), but this is a lot of hot air about what the typical Sox do. They are still generally a bunch of mediocre to bad fielders, with thin depth, and a thin lineup that has a tendency to be streaky. Kudos to them for their aggression, but we've seen this before and it generally doesn't work for them.
  6. In 6 out of the last 8 seasons he has been a 130+ ERA pitcher. Who are you looking at?
  7. Only recently, prior to that he was primarily concerned with making Curt Schilling say dumb things.
  8. I think I'm just done with Liriano, been there and done that. Though I do agree his profile is the kind we should target.
  9. I worry I'm closer to this. It's not just the concussions either, there were concerns he had back injuries and soreness. That's a hard thing to keep from nagging you as well. He cut down on the Ks and had a better second half overall and for that there is reason to hope, but we may have to adjust our expectations for what constitutes a "good" season from Mauer.
  10. http://media.tumblr.com/cdc0a1dd77d1640fce09f0547891182a/tumblr_inline_n9m4gfuN1e1qziitf.gif
  11. With this part I agree that Torii may be helpful. I've been an advocate of letting kids have swagger and attitude and I don't mind that in a ballplayer. That is not, however, the same as being a mentor, a leader, or a model of professionalism and too many people are equivocating those things.
  12. Yes, I have no empathy for a position that manages to be both mildly racist and utterly wrong. Agent prices have very little to do with why black men aren't playing baseball because they aren't playing it LONG before agents get involved. So blaming it on cheap latinos is ridiculous regardless of your level of empathy.
  13. Agreed, so when the majority of the rhetoric surrounding his return is focused on intangibles and not what he brings to the field.....I start having my doubts.
  14. Everyone should - he made a series of incredibly stupid and ignorant remarks that are totally indefensible.
  15. It's "quite accurate" that you can get them for a bag of chips? Or, I'd suggest, is that about as accurate a representation as anything Torii has said about blacks and latinos in basebal?
  16. Get a CF. A real one. Who has not ever been a Twin before. (Sit back down Rich Becker)
  17. I couldn't help but think of Lisa and Homer arguing about how her rock keeps tigers away. But to take it a bit further, Phil Hughes xFIP indicates your point is not well based.
  18. I tend to agree, which makes the move for Hunter more baffling. The best way for this team to improve it's run prevention was to A) Sign an Ace or Make the OF defense not abysmal. They likely won't do A and they may have found a way to make B even worse than it was. That's impressive in a disheartening sort of way.
  19. I like the word uncomfortable in this. Some of the best journalists and interviewers are those that refuse to just allow things to be comfortable.
  20. I'm a proponent of the eye test and not a strong fan of defensive metrics. But you'd have to be blind to pass this defense with the eye test. It is clearly and demonstrably hurting this team.
  21. Spycake basically hit this out of the park, but I would add this - we don't know what story there is or isn't on this until we ask. I would suggest to you that in Torii's past he has taken relatively straightforward questions and gone completely off the deep end with them. (Like "Why do you think we have less black kids in baseball?" turning into a conversation railing latin players) Could I see the argument that this wasn't the best time to ask that question? Sure, I sympathize with that. Was this bad journalism? Not at all, it was a valid question that Hunter handled like a child. Like he seems to handle most things.
  22. Considering how often "veteran presence" comes out of the mouths of our leadership team on the Twins, I would say it's a vote of credibility to the rumor if anything.
  23. Pseudo, I'm having a hard time not seeing your response as essentially: Despite having PR coaches and agents telling them what to say, we can't ask thought provoking questions to insulated athletes so anything beyond a lame softball question amounts to gotcha journalism. I'm sorry, but I couldn't disagree with that more. If a Hunter is thoughtful enough to use his platform to speak his mind, he should be thoughtful enough to answer a tough question here and there.
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