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  1. TheLeviathan
    It was bound to happen. Some here suggested we offer Plouffe a qualifying offer. I have no doubt he'd follow the same path as Rasmus: stay where you like it for one huge pay day and then go get a multi-year deal later.
  2. TheLeviathan
    Yeah I questioned that Plouffe deal too...and I'm cheering louder than anyone to make that happen.
  3. TheLeviathan
    I only wish we could trade Hicks twice.
  4. TheLeviathan
    Ryan was probably subbing for him as a GM at the time too.
  5. TheLeviathan
    Trading Aaron Hicks seems like a weird place to start this particular rant.
  6. TheLeviathan
    He's a good fielder who hits for power, those aren't enormously abundant.
  7. TheLeviathan
    Man there are some posters that are really tone deaf about how they come across. Sometimes it isn't the people reading into your posts, it's you doing a really poor job articulating your thoughts to create the illusion of a different position. I, for one, will be happy to never see Hicks go back on a ball again (or thrilled if we do it to the Yanks!) and he largely being overrated here. Not thrilled with the trade, I wanted them to pursue a true upgrade rather than just "youth" and I think that's the trap that hurt the Twins here. On the plus side, I think this might be an endorsement of Buxton making the club straight out of ST. At least I hope so.
  8. TheLeviathan
    That's not your call. Baseball GMs do all sorts of things that are hardly predictable or logical. They may see him as a 1B or as a rotation between DH and another position. You don't know that perception. You can't know it. Neither do I. All I'm suggesting is that his profile and contributions lend to a player that could inspire interest. And it should be explored. The Twins have good reasons to explore it, so I'm hoping they do.
  9. TheLeviathan
    Because a player like Plouffe can check a lot of boxes for a team. Including multiple positions.
  10. TheLeviathan
    Teams ascend quickly all the time, our current champs went from 86 wins and out of the playoffs to a WC run to the WS and then a title. Baseball is a funny game, as long as you make the dance at the end the "pipe dream" part becomes nothing but a crapshoot you're just about as likely to snag as the next team.
  11. TheLeviathan
    It was interesting to hear the crowd's reactions when the other candidates were (correctly) calling out Trump's preposterous positions.
  12. TheLeviathan
    Yeah my first thought was that a whole lot of Republicans are going to be ticked off that their saint just got smacked around pretty hilariously.
  13. TheLeviathan
    I don't understand why anyone would be arguing then. If Plouffe is indeed valuable, then let's explore that value while it makes sense for a host of reasons. That's all anyone has ever said about it. If you can get approximate value in the form of a young player or a position of need for Plouffe in a trade, there a great many good reasons to do so. And things don't always work like "X teams need 3B and Y teams don't", we see all the time that teams find ways to make things work if what they need is more like "RH power hitting corner infielder" Many of you are intentionally limiting the market to make your point, when the truth is that it's hard to always tell what the market is for a player with some versatility and a clear skill set.
  14. TheLeviathan
    I like that theory and his speech to his brother last night would foreshadow that well.
  15. TheLeviathan
    Look, it should be a given that we don't know what value is out there for certain, that should be an underlying assumption we all share because none of us, so far as I know, are eavesdropping on conversations. This is reminiscent of a Willingham where people argued he was both valuable to us and yet invaluable on the market. That may well be true, the problem is we pretty much know the Twins never even tried to shop him that first season when he was crushing in July. You can make a case that he has low value, but I think the 3B market, the fact he is a productive two way player, and the fact that you are getting two years of that player will make him an attractive asset. Ultimately, though, that's up to Ryan to find out.
  16. TheLeviathan
    A lot of that was name value and past success that Plouffe simply doesn't have.
  17. TheLeviathan
    Please, just stop making every Plouffe thread into a strawman. I think we all can agree if we can't get something tasty back for Plouffe we keep him. But his team control and the weak market make for a pretty opportune time to sell. Someone like Nick Tropeano might be a nice target.
  18. TheLeviathan
    Hanzee is one bad dude.
  19. TheLeviathan
    Regardless of anything he's done in the past. The first 4-5 days of this offseason have me very pleasantly surprised. I'm going to sit back and enjoy seeing what comes next, because this doesn't seem like our usual Terry.
  20. TheLeviathan
    I agree, it really shouldn't be part of the conversation. The reality is that the best way to make 2016, 2017, and on better is to replace Plouffe with Sano and leave DH to Park. That allows us to play a really excellent OF of some combination of Kepler/Buxton/Hicks/Rosario.
  21. TheLeviathan
    Nice move Ryan.
  22. TheLeviathan
    My impression is that the same people saying "he might not be that valuable" want to hand him 16M qualifying offers.
  23. TheLeviathan
    At the time Bourjos was seen as a fairly attractive asset. Let me make this clear for what appears to be the billionth time - no one is arguing Trevor Plouffe is going to land you Matt Harvey and Noah Syndergaard and a delicious pie on the trade market. No one. No one is saying that. No one. But whatever value he has is at it's height right now and moving him now gives the team the best chance to balance their roster given the young guys coming soon (OFs) and the young stud we have already at the same position. I don't know exactly what is out there for Plouffe, but the Twins should damn sure be exploring what it is in a FA market with garbage for 3B.
  24. TheLeviathan
    You're fine with paying Trevor Plouffe 16M? I don't have words. If I'm Trevor Plouffe I see roughly double whatever I'm likely to make on the market and I take that in a heartbeat. Any agent that recommended Trevor Plouffe decline a QO should be fired on the spot.
  25. TheLeviathan
    No one is suggesting Plouffe for an ace. It's Plouffe for something of value. The roster shapes up much better when Plouffe is no longer in the equation and this is the year to maximize whatever value we'd get for him.
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