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  1. TheLeviathan
    Ah yes, I read that. I think you posted it over on VJ. It's an excellent article, sorry if i was being redundant with a point already made. I think I commented over there on it as well. I think it is a major issue for the NFL right now. They are casting off players at a younger and younger age and i'm convinced it is rarely anything to do with ability and more to do with money. To steer it back to this forum, I'm also ok with being more aggressive dealing prospects. But there is a financial component there as well. I like to think a balanced approach is best. Primarily use the farm, supplement with FA, and be aggressive at the right times to take a shot at surviving the crapshoot. I think the Cardinals are pretty much the model franchise for this. The Rangers have been underrated at it as well, even with some highly touted prospects flopping.
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    I wonder if this is going to tie back into the affirmative consent issue. I appreciate that the school has remained tight lipped about the whats and the whys. I worry it won't stay that way and what we find behind all this will be even uglier.
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    We're going to have a long list of reminders....
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    I'm pretty thoroughly on the record of disagreeing with this line of thinking (unless the package is one of those hang up the phone kinds of ridiculous ones), but I'd suggest to you that there is plenty of risk in keeping Dozier as well. I think both teams, rightly, think they have leverage here. I wonder if they're both playing front office chicken with these negotiations.
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    Absolutely - sign em and flip em in July.
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    I'd be curious if anyone had information about this. I did a quick search but everything was very shallow in what they presented. This story is really crappy, I hope due process and justice is available for all involved. Whatever that might mean for each individual involved.
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    10 years is a pretty good run for any strategy. Every strategy has drawbacks, but if done well, you can hold off the inevitable longer. And it's clear Dombrowski is good at that.
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    I'd take McCarthy. If it sweetened the pot.
  9. TheLeviathan
    Part of it is financial. The NFL salary cap is ridiculously small, so having depth from those late picks is vital.
  10. TheLeviathan
    I'm all in on drafting hitters early, but Hunter Greene reads like a stud top of the draft pick.
  11. TheLeviathan
    Yeah, but let's not lose sight of what really matters - is he a good clubhouse guy?
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    Precisely. In order to compromise you sort of have to moderate your point of view. Hillary, a good person who means well, is now also getting blasted for those sorts of decisions in her life time. She has moderated and compromised and that makes her a terrible candidate apparently. Moderate or independent doesn't have to mean lacking conviction, or empty, or any of the things this thread has given examples of. It just means someone who has their own set of beliefs and isn't beholden to any one framework. You know, the kind of people more likely to actually solve a problem then funnel everything through their narrow framework. The right has long since ostracized most of those kinds of thinkers. Like kab, I worry about the left splintering in it's own direction and casting off anyone too "moderate" for them. That's a dangerous road.
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    Hmmm, I may have to sample this to compare to Arizona. Maybe it's a regional thing.
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    Tyson Ross. I'd have my medical guys clear him and if they do - I pony up. He's your best buy low on the entire market IMO.
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    I'm not sure what happened, because I started this line of conversation by remarking how crappy it is to be a moderate/independent thinker in this heightened, polarized environment. You seemed to be arguing that moderates sort of deserve that because they don't stand for anything and don't accomplish much. (I don't feel like I was reading into that because at least one other poster seemed to take away the same vibe from your posts) Now you appear to be saying what I was all along: coalitions should be more diverse in their ideas and responses to problems. As an independent, I don't feel welcome in either end of liberal/conservative nor in either party. The rhetoric is harsh from the two ends on what they think of us. We are phonies, not "real" liberals/conservatives, or many of the ways you chose to describe me in your posts. So I don't disagree with anything you said in the second paragraph, what I take issue with is that neither side (be it party or ideology) is particularly interested in welcoming reasonable people into their conversations. They simply want you to acknowledge their platform, in total, or get lost. Conservatives have been doing it for a decade and it's why we are here with the unreasonable whack jobs in charge. Some of the rhetoric about Clinton the Evil Moderate sounds similar. And, as an independent myself - oh too familiar.
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    You are welcome to favor a more liberal agenda for your party. That's your prerogative. That was never at issue. But you seem to be talking out of both sides of your mouth. You say no one is beholden to one platform or ideology, but then also seem to say that you can't build coalition without near universal agreement. I disagree. Is it more difficult? Sure, but we've swung to a point in which the two poles accept nothing other than devotion to their platform. Right and left wingers talk about these things. If you waver on any point, or quibble on any point, you're no longer a "true" part of the coalition. You use phrases like "call yourself". And the problem there is not just that you're rejected from the coalition, you're rejected from being a voice in the conversation. I think that's a really, really bad thing. And how that changes the party dynamics is unclear to me, but it's making governance terrible. More independent, moderate, untethered thinkers the better. I think that's part of why Minnesota is so well governed in fact.
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    Of course! Because we're independent thinkers! But that doesn't mean my system doesn't have values and beliefs. And, to go back, many of my values and beliefs coincide with your All Mighty Platform, so why wait until we have uniform consensus? Why is uniform consensus even a good thing? Call me crazy, but a plurality of ideas with many common values seems like a whole lot better of a way to make the world a better place than: Choose all of A or all of B or get the *@% out of here. At that point, are you even thinking any more? Or does it just become a situation in which you raise your hand when your side is called, demonize the other side for being not-A or not-B and go on your merry way? Because it sure feels that way these days.
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    I think the root of the issue here is you thinking moderate/independent is incapable of being a value/belief system. I unequivocally reject that. And that sentiment is exactly what I was expressing frustration with.
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    I'm having a hard time reconciling your claim that you aren't dismissing moderate/independent thinking when you spent several posts labeling it ad little more than platitudes. And the conversation wasn't about firing up a new party so much as decrying either party for being unwelcoming to more moderate, independent thinking. And as a pro abortion rights, pro gun regulation, pro gay marriage, anti military spending, pro basic income kinda guy, I find your last paragraph pretty funny. You just did, again, exactly what I'm saying is the problem. If I was posting on a conservative board they'd dismiss me as a reasonable liberal who pretends to be a moderate too. I don't know if your intent is to be the perfect example of my frustration, but it does help illustrate the point. Some of us really are untethered. I find it fascinating how frequently I find that to be this hard for people.
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    Dismissing a moderate viewpoint as hollow platitudes is sort of exactly my issue. There is a whole spectrum of ideas avaliable that you are actively dismissing because it isn't ideolocally uncetered enough. I think you're doing a nice job demonstrating my problem here. Moderates, untethered viewpoints have the advantage of evaluating ideas from the outside for their strengths and weaknesses. That is a tremendous advantage for good policy being ignored and dismissed.
  21. TheLeviathan
    Exactly!!!!
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    I disagree, I heard the platform - make America a place where everyone has a fair shake and not just the rich/elite. It's hollow a bit, coming from her, but it was the platform. The problem is no one listened because they disliked the candidate so strongly IMO. As for the rest - I'm the opposite. I could care less what you tell me you want to change. Tell me how you're going to do it. That has been a major sticking point with both left and right wing policies. It's one thing that seems to be common ground: They're both good at telling us what will get better and then finding a way to make it worse. I wish we'd get away from grandiose promises and platforms and get back into ideas and policies that work.
  23. TheLeviathan
    None of know what the offers are behind the scenes. But this offseason hasn't exactly been light on returns for sellers. I'm not sure we're actually shopping him though.
  24. TheLeviathan
    Sure, it's hard to have a party platform for moderates, but it's not hard to appeal to moderates if you use sound judgment, common sense, and compromise as your vehicles of governance. We need not agree on a platform of ideas, we could instead agree on a method of governance. I think the path of "Everyone get on our platform!" is part of the problem. It encourages people to either feel left out (because they have specific disagreements) or to compromise their beliefs to stay with the crowd. It also stifles growth and change in the party when you approach things as "here is our platform - in or out?" I think where many of us like kab and I feel left out is we don't just agree with lists of party platforms. Rarely do I ever unilaterally agree with any list shoved in my face, including the grocery list with my wife. Why would i do that on something as complex and critical as politics? Yet, should we raise our meager voice and say "You know...this political correct/safe space stuff isn't helping" - we get kicked off one side. If we raise our meager voice and say "You know, this outwardly racist and xenophobic rhetoric isn't good for anyone" - we get booted off the other side. So what exactly are we to do? And how is it good to make political ideology so rigid as to be such an and/or choice. I'd like to vote more based on how the politician or party tries to solve problems. Which is why I'm more inclined to vote Democrat right now. But if the current progressive wing takes that over, I'm not so sure I could stomach that side either.
  25. TheLeviathan
    Perhaps, it also means the Twins assume a lot of risk that come July 31st he is even a player they'd want. Or at a price we'd want to move him for.
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