It's funny, I just argued with my grandparents like this yesterday. Started measured, reasoned, factual. I pressed the point on how much more profitable and wealthy everyone becomes when we bring the lowest up and flood the middle class with cash rather than handing the wealthy money. Pointed out that they complain about socialism and then buy pills from Canadian pharmacies. I hit the genetics testing, the waste in the defense budget, and on and on and it was a wall of stupidity. I heard about how Obama hates America, the illegals ruin everything, Benghazi got name dropped about four times, and by the end of it I was told they'd "pray for me". Only deepened my resolve to never vote Republican again. At least for the forseeable future.