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  1. TheLeviathan
    Why wouldn't he single out the role of the Democrats in emailing a Democratic Senator?
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    That depends on how extensive their tracking is and what decisions they choose to use that information to make. Clark's not wrong to at least be concerned about it, especially if they don't know what the clubs are doing fully.
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    Governance should not be one party or the other. That mentality you express in the first paragraph is part of the problem IMO. We need to get back to expecting our politicians to work with people of all political persuasions. Some of our best legislation is when one party's central idea is bolstered by ideas to make it better from the other side. So I'm with glunn - we don't need the Dems to dance on the ashes of this defeat, we need them to inject some of their ideas in the ultimate solution. Otherwise, what's the alternative? They just hang around, waiting for Republican failures to bask in, waiting for "their chance" to govern? And we repeat that brutal cycle over and over again? One of the things that bothers me most about Ryan's rhetoric is how he talks about "the governing party" vs. "the resistance party". That is an enormously problematic way to frame this and I feel like your criticism buys into that. Also, on your last paragraph, we had money in politics long before Citizens United. That decision was a bad one, but let's be real. Those problems have existed for a long time. Personally, I think some brave politician should stand up and talk about single payer with a well worked-out, sustainable way to pay for it. I think there is an appetite for that in America. Especially if it's sold well.
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    I won't suggest to know whether Ian Kinsler is a racist. I will suggest his comments continue a negative racist trend in baseball that Latin players need to be taught how to play "the right way". And that is a problem, whether he intended to be part of that narrative or not I don't know. But now he is.
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    Again I ask - why did he say kids should watch Americans "as opposed to" the other countries if not because he believes their play is superior? What does that comment mean if not that? When I say "you should eat the steak not the chicken", I'm not merely pointing out a difference. It's utterly preposterous to continue to suggest that.
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    Really excellent post.
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    If it's always the same race you disagree with or you disagree with them because of their race....then perhaps yes.
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    He also said he couldn't give more specific examples out of fear of putting names out there.
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    I think there are times to stand up against what another culture believes or practices. I don't believe we should only protect people in our border and like-wise things I believe about the rights of women, children, minorities, and others that are oppressed transcend cultural and national lines as well. But there is a very big distinction (with perhaps a very fine line) between standing up for the rights and dignities of humanity and shaming a culture based on their race. Again, I don't think Kinsler was doing that, but I do think there is a pervasive vein of thinking among baseball players that Latin players "don't play the right way" because they are from Latin countries. That's the problem. I don't even have a problem with Kinsler thinking his way is best necessarily, but the way he phrased his points ventured into that problematic territory.
  10. TheLeviathan
    Tomorrow could well be the galvanizing moment (either way) for Dems in 2018.
  11. TheLeviathan
    He says children should emulate one and not the other. Why, if not because he views one as better?
  12. TheLeviathan
    Ian Kinsler is arguing everyone should play his way. I think Mike is arguing let everyone play their own way. That is not the same thing.
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    I've long worried the unwritten rules have just become an increasingly common excuse for policing the way other cultures and players play the game. And that most often it is Latin players that face the brunt of it. If Ian Kinsler believes strongly his version of gentlemanly play is best....ok. He can state that without specifically deriding other countries and the way they play. He can play his way and champion that. Where it becomes a problem is when you start telling kids not to play another way, or that other countries have it wrong, or (worst of all) when you start heaving baseballs, throwing punches, or trying take out slides to make your point.
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    If I say I hope my kid watches Steve play and not Joe and Bob, by your logic I'm not saying anything critical of Joe and Bob. Just pointing out differences. Please tell me that isn't what you're saying. It's preposterous on the face of it. He didn't say "I hope they notice the difference", he very clearly implied he hopes that kids play one way and not the other way. Race comes into play when we consider why he is putting one way as superior to the other. Maybe it's not racism, but there is widespread shame placed on how latin players play in baseball. We should take a good, hard look at why.
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    He called the countries out by name. He very clearly was distinguishing American play as "right way" and the two countries he named as "wrong way". Otherwise, why is he suggesting kids should watch one and not the other?
  16. TheLeviathan
    His criticism was of latin players. Quite plainly. Putting that up for debate makes me question what you're even reading or if you're just defaulting to all the mumbo-jumbo in your last sentence.
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    No one put words in his mouth, that's a freaking quote. I'm glad he walked it back and clarified, but his original quote was pretty clearly a dig and not what he reframed it as later. But I'm glad he walked it back, it shows the ability to see where he went wrong.
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    All I'm suggesting is that there is some of both. Even if Kinsler doesn't know it. And it is common and disproportionate. Ask Jose Bautista.
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    Your first paragraph might be true, but it's not that simple. At some point a cultural difference can become racism. And in baseball there is frequently disproportionate criticism leveled on latin players for their behavior. That speaks to me of an element of racism.
  20. TheLeviathan
    Kinsler's words are part of a much larger narrative in baseball that demeans the way the Latin American players play the game. Instructing kids to not watch how they play the game is another bold step in that direction.
  21. TheLeviathan
    Legion got a little more comic book-y than I expected. It's about as close to canon X-men story as any movie or show has been. But the black and white stuff was absolutely bonkers. So awesome.
  22. TheLeviathan
    When the group you are disagreeing with always has the same color skin? (Not white) Yeah, then it might be a little racist. The Asian countries have some quirky things too, but you don't see that getting nearly the criticism of the Latin American countries. I don't throw the term around loosely and I don't believe Kinsler means to be racist, but it is subtle and part of this.
  23. TheLeviathan
    It does when you make asinine comments like Kinsler did.
  24. TheLeviathan
    Ian Kinsler proves people like this are not only ignorant, but slightly racist as well. ~~~~~ Note from John Bonnes: Hi gang, We pride ourselves at Twins Daily on thoughtful conversations and occasionally we stretch ourselves with more incendiary topics. This has the potential to be one of those topics. I'd encourage you to participate, but I'd also encourage you to be civil, thoughtful, understanding and kind. I'm also assuming this topic will be heavily moderated, and that you show understanding with the moderators who volunteer to keep this a good place to talk through topics that make folks uncomfortable. Thanks, John
  25. TheLeviathan
    Schiff seems like a smart guy. I hope that isn't a Maddow moment there. Dems have to play this carefully until there is a true smoking gun. I lean towards thinking there will be, if we're patient.
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