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  1. Plus, unlike Gardy, I don't think Molitor planned to get tossed. Gardy would frequently do exactly that and I've seen nothing like that from Molitor.
  2. Papelbon also insisted on staying the closer, do you think the Twins were going to demote Perkins? I can't believe the Nats are doing that to Storen.
  3. They could seriously help this team without mortgaging the future by adding a few bullpen pieces. That said, I do think there is too much "have to make a deal" talk - that's a bad way to operate a team. Do things that make sense, but focus on trying to make your team better. However, if the market doesn't bear fruit, there are options in the minor leagues right now that Brock was right about. The roster needs to be changed, that's what has to happen. Not necessarily a trade.
  4. Royals add Zobrist, be sad if we do nothing.
  5. I don't see how they get anything for him of significance. It almost feels like they want to still pretend they are competing rather than reloading to build around Arenado. That's the only thing I can think of.
  6. His health risks were a huge factor for me, but I'd give up more than what the Blue Jays did in a heart-beat for him. The risk was well worth the cost IMO. The biggest mystery to me is why the Rockies seem to have wanted Reyes at all.
  7. Yeah Berrios is a good comp for Hoffman but May is an awful comp. Its far closer to Hu. I dont get why they wanted Reyes. It seems like we could have easily beat that package.
  8. Am I the only one underwhelmed by the return the Rockies got?
  9. Knobby at his peak was a truly special player on a bad team. Hunter has been a pretty darn good player on a lot of good teams. Seems about the right ranking, though I'd possibly slide Knobby higher. (I think his falling out and post-career stuff has really held down his legacy)
  10. I struggle to call him a cornerstone because of his age. I'm not in a hurry to deal him, but I think this offseason could be an important time to see what's out there.
  11. Right, but these are things you consider when you are debating where the line for "too great" comes in. They aren't really separate.
  12. Right, Gibson has a good chance to be reliably above average. If you deal him you're willingly agreeing to rely more on Tommy Milone and a very young starter like Berrios to avoid your rotation falling apart. Now maybe you agree to take that risk in order to upgrade another position, but it is a risk.
  13. We're a bad road team playing tough ball clubs. /thread
  14. I don't know what you're arguing for? Tulo or failure?
  15. Good post earlier tobi. The myth of deadline deals and going all-in to win is one of strongest delusions in sports. It's not only ineffective, it's often counter productive in both the short and long term. Middle deals at the deadline and splash in the offseason. That's what actually works.
  16. I don't know how you keep going off the rails here, but I never excluded his June ERA. I didn't look at monthly ERAs - I looked at monthly peripherals. I excluded April on the basis of those, not his ERA. Even with that poor ERA in June, he's still been above average - as have many of his key peripherals. The only one that isn't is K/9 but that just isn't ever going to be his style. Everything else has trended very well the last three months.
  17. Yes, let's continue to use ERA. I'm evaluating Gibson based on consistent peripherals since May and the results those have yielded: an above average major league starter. And yes, that includes one month where his ERA wasn't sterling. I cited ERA as a stat that helps show his success, but there are others. In fact, I'd argue, many of the best pitching stats for evaluation would show that success if we omitted April. Alas, Fangraphs doesn't allow me to go just from May until now.
  18. Except his peripherals in June were similar to May and July, his peripherals in April don't even look like the same player.
  19. No equation was set up, please see the point for what it was, not what allows you to make a strawman. Young players have to be watched in smaller samples by the nature of being new to the league. We may be seeing the best we'll see from Gibson, but if he can maintain this it's an above average starting pitcher. That's what I see the last three months and is the most relevant for evaluating his future.
  20. 43rd in xFIP, 27th in ERA, 35th in soft contact - and all of that is with his god awful April dragging him down. Since May he's been well above average.
  21. With any young player, isn't the most recent, consistent data the most relevant? Do we hold 2012 against Dozier or worry more about the player he is today?
  22. 1) He is currently above average by a decent margin. So this is already wrong. 2) "most pitchers are who they are" is deliberately holding something against him that wasn't within his control. It's far more relevant to analyze how he has developed since his debut.
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