Right. As far as the data, we are just stuck. Some of us--because of our principles, our experience, our silly tendency to believe that such a thing as 'aces' is quantifiable (if I only could discern it)--are unwilling to draw conclusions from the modest amount data, even if that's all we have. I'm speculating, but I imagine if we looked at any player position, we'd see a similar break down of where the 'stars' (as opposed to 'aces') were drafted and acquired. So, on a hunch really, I'm willing to contend that the standard differentiation of acquiring starting pitching is no greater than position players. If you want to contend that it's very difficult to acquire all-star or hall-of-fame level players and that the Twins might not be doing everything right in their quest for such players, well you're probably right. There are few opportunities to acquire top of the rotation pitching as there are few opportunities to acquire top of the line position players. If we're honestly asking the question of the Twins capacity to acquire ace pitchers; I'm encouraged by the acquisition of Meyer and May, the drafting Berrios. Let's remember the Twins have picked in the bottom half of the draft for a decade, during that time they acquired Liriano and Santana on the stupid cheap. Certainly there's any number of clubs that do so much better, but let's also not pretend that there's some ready-made formula for the successful acquisition of star players.