RedBull34

I'm all for it. In any case you could always trade him, for more then a 2nd Rounder come playoff time anyways in case they do want to get rid of him. In matter of fact, I can't think of a better move for the Twins to do this offseason.

Shows who won that trade. Would you deal Meyer for Span now? A: No

Rosario, Hicks, and Buxton have no business being in the majors right now. Colabello and Parms shouldn't be playing either. Presley is on the fence and Mastro is slightly worse. Hammer is a DH. Arcia needs to be playing. Basically he'd be the second/third best OF on the team after Arcia.

Absolutely, at least the filler we are marching out there now has had at least some major league success, instead of the pitcher's like...ugh...Hernandez.

Isn't he already off of waivers? He's cleared now isn't he?

Only one player will start the year in Minny and actually be good. Arcia it is.

Oh man, I wish I could go to this...

I guess I don't mind it at all. I mean, who's going to carry him on their 40? He hasn't even had moderate success in the bigs.

and Burton and Plouffe is a Super Two and you're assuming we just cut loose all of the others. If Correia pitches like he did last year, I could see the Twins keeping him around.

A good start. Still need more.

IT'S NOLASCO! http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/11/twins-agree-to-terms-with-ricky-nolasco.html#disqus_thread

Nolasco pitched 199.1 innings last year?

I also like Bailey. I think he would be better then Garza. But on the other hand Wahl makes a good point. Let's just lock up Garza and pick up Bailey next year in FA if available.

I'm not getting to point out I'm awesome, I'm just going to point out my trophy case...

No trade for Arcia, the outfield immediate depth isn't great plus I don't understand the appeal of trading a starter for another without a replacement.

Well that sucks.

Isn't that impossible to predict? I have no idea who's going to progress or regress. Hicks and Gibson might just not "have it" and just be terrible all their careers. It's happened before. I have no idea how to do what you are asking. Do you?

I didn't mean to state that this is an absolute, it was just something fun I put together that gives us an idea of what could happen. Obviously there is a huge amount of variation from year to year that does not necessarily translate into wins or losses. I was more or less pointing out that even without other changes, the Twins likely aren't going to be great next year.

Pelfry also provided a positive fWar but if we use rWar he has a -.3 War which is a considerable difference. Admittedly rWar might be better for this as I'm more inclined to believe the difference is much bigger then it shows.

Last year the Twins finished 66-96. So what is the potential bounce back for the Twins if they were to sign some of the rumored names? I will be using fWar (because it's convenient and at least fairly accurate) The first question is how many pitchers should the Twins sign? Essentially handling a full workload all year were: Pelfey (29 GS, 2.1 WAR) Correia (31 GS, 1.3 WAR) Deduno & Albers Combo (28 GS, 2.0 WAR) Hendriks & Diamond Combo (32 GS, -.4 WAR) Walters, DeVries, Gibson, Worley, Hernandez Combo (42 GS, -.5 WAR) Admittedly this isn't a perfect breakdown but there is at least a clear difference by WAR between the 3 slot and 4 slot. If we allow for Correia to remain as well as allot Gibson a slot as well, we realistically have 3 slots to fill. Obviously projecting Gibson is quite difficult but for now I'm going to assume some progression and grant him a WAR of 2.0 next year. Essentially the Twins right now are going to be 65-97 by WAR. So which where do FA pitchers rank by WAR? Nolasco: 3.0 WAR Kazmir: 2.5 Johnson: .5 WAR (1.0 if he pitches all year) Arroyo: .8 WAR Garza: 2.2 WAR Hughes: 1.3 WAR Feldman: 2.1 WAR Santana: 3.0 WAR Jimenez: 3.2 WAR Haren: 1.5 WAR Now this list is not exhaustive but it gives us a good idea. That is that the Twins can roughly expect 2-3 WAR from a pitcher if they were to sign him. Now as the Twins are supposed to be looking for 3 pitchers according to my science that would make by dollar amounts Kazmir, Feldman, and any of the 3.0 pitchers likely candidates to all be signed. That edges the Twins to about 8 wins better. That places them at 73-86. Now I would like to think that it would improve by more then that since together the top 3 by WAR (Scherzer, Kershaw, and Sanchez) combined for 19.1 WAR which would bring them to 84-78.

I'd make a call see what's going on but I wouldn't put my heart into it if I were Terry. Not likely but worth looking into.

A sad day has come. Let us all mourn the passing of the great baseball career of Mark DeRosa. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/11/mark-derosa-to-announce-retirement.html#disqus_thread

I would just as soon give the job to Pinto and see what he does. I don't want the Twins to sign Salty or anyone else. Perhaps only a really good defensive catcher for a almost league minimum...now where could the Twins get somebody like that?...

LH Power Bat with no defense in a park that kills LH Power Bats...Pass.

Except that the Cards are unreasonably deep at SP and that would be a card worth playing. I think it would keep the Twins out of Sano and Buxton territory. Might be a good place to use Rosario & Arcia though. (not sure if I would do that but I think that might get it done)