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  1. He is seeing hitters don't chase in the show. Now he knows what he needs to work on. I would rather him have this start this year rather than next year. Failure is just an opportunity for future success.
  2. Agreed. Hitting is down folks, in terms of both power and average. If I can get another athletic OF with gap power and average in Target field, I take it to the bank everyday. Santana in LF or CF really doesn't matter if you believe Arcia and Buxton will both have 20+ HR potential. Also, let's not count on Buxton making the jump next year. Personally, I would keep Santana in CF or LF until Buxton is up and then figure it out. Santana, Buxton and Arcia isn't terrible in terms of athleticism, power and average. Hicks as a 4th makes it even better and allows you to deal a player if you need to.
  3. re: Santana I don't really care if they keep in the OF or keep him at SS, but what I care about is that they have a plan. If he is going to be playing SS next year, get him there over the remainder of this year. Similarly, if he is going to be an outfielder next year, keep him in the outfield. Have a plan and work it.
  4. Ok...after forgeting about Nolasco and forgetting the compensatory guidelines, I am putting myself in timeout.
  5. Cespedes for Lester was a really smart move by the A's. Cespedes was not going to be re-signed, they are a serious World Series contender, and they will get a 1st round draft pick for Lester if he leaves. They still have good depth in the farm system and they still have movable pieces if they want to reload.
  6. I sure did. Nolasco, Hughes, Gibson, Meyer, May and MIllone is not bad in terms of depth and stuff. Meyer and May will struggle and that is to be expected. Hell, maybe Nolasco returns to form and the Twins are able to unload him at the deadline next year.
  7. So, in terms of 2015, Hughes, Gibson, Meyers, May and Millone is not a bad start. Probably need to add another starter into the mix because chances are someone will get injured or struggle. That isn't being negative, it is just that injuries happen. Add some outfielders who can run beside Arcia and maybe we don't lose 90. Santana and Dozier will hopefully man the middle. Also, I am excited to see how Vargas does though I expect he will struggle as Arcia has. Now we just need to get a ham sandwich for Suzuki, Willingham and Correia and I will be happy.
  8. Classic Twins. Be terrified of losing a 32 year old catcher.
  9. It is like the Twins don't realize they are a 90 loss team.
  10. However, just because you despise it doesn't mean it is not the best move for the future of the team. Let me put it this way...Glen Perkins will be 33 years old prior to the 2016 season which is our closest CHANCE of competing. Would you be willing to offer a 33 year old closer in 2016 a 3 year deal worth 19.3 million? Maybe. Are you willing to guarantee that money now when the contract is guaranteed and could affect your ability to add talent to your team when they are more likely to be competitive? You shouldn't.
  11. "one of us" "positive thoughts" "positive vibes" and you proceed to talk about jersey sales, attendence, and selling tickets. Come on. None of these are driving forces on the moves made by winning teams. Loyalty and sentimentality have no business in professional sports when there are salary caps and bottom lines involved. Perkins has been a really good relief pitcher for us and I like him as a Twin. However, none of those are reasons to hold onto him while our is floundering for a fourth straight season.
  12. You bought it with your own statement. The majority of fans do not go to Twins games to see Glen Perkins. Fact. You may be a fan, but you are not purchasing a ticket in the hope of your 90 loss Twins being in a position where he can impact a game. Why should I go see the Twins? Because it is summer, tickets are cheap because they suck and there isn't a ton to do in Minnesota as far as sporting events during the summer.
  13. Trading Glen Perkins is not going to significantly affect attendence or the team's bottom line. End of story.
  14. 1. I want the Twins to win, but they have lost 90 games the past 3 and soon to be 4 seasons with Perkins. He is obviously not the difference in relation to winning and losing. 2. How many sellouts are happening when the Twins are losing 90 games AND they have Glen Perkins? How many jersey's are being sold BECAUSE of Glen Perkins? Hwo many fans are watching games BECAUSE Glen Perkins might close it out. The answer is a very minute fraction. The Twins drive ticket and jersey sales by winning but they survive on shared revenue and corporate sponserships, not you the tempermental fan. (royal you, not you you) 3. The model for success the Twins are commited to following is predicated on developing their farm system. Trading a veteran piece for multiple prospects is how they keep that system running. I may not love it as a fan, but I understand that is how they are going to compete. Glen Perkins is a nice player, but his usefulness to this club going forward is being turned into multiple prospects to develop at more vital positions. What is going to change next year that will allow Glen Perkins to save more games? We will be losing Willingham. Mauer will be older. We aren't going to sign a big name free agent. The chips are all in waiting for the farm system to produce it's stocked talent and we will not be competitive until it does. Because that timeframe is uncertain, why hold onto a stock that will only hold it's current value at best?
  15. Wrong. You make money by winning games and because of revenue sharing. Winning games gives you leverage in local TV deals. Winning brings free agents to Minnesota. Winning fills the ballpark. Appeasing fans who are in general uninformed and emotionally vested causes you to continually lose games. Appeasing fans causes you to spend 20mil a year on a guy who might never hit 20 home runs in a season ever again. Appeasing fans is the best way to run your organization into the toilet. And regarding loyalty, are you kidding me? Perkins is getting paid millions of dollars to pitch. If the Twins believe it is best for the team for him to do so elsewhere, then they do what is best for the team. Loyalty gets you nowhere is a salary cap league other than in the cellar. As for free agents, they don't care either. Free agents care about winning, money and location. Period. It is business, plain and simple.
  16. Losing keeps people away from the ballpark and losing 90 games with Perkins is no different than losing 100 games without him. The goal is build a contending team through the farm system and in order to do that you have to flood the system with talent. Once that talent reaches the major league level, then you add veterans to fill in the holes and provide leadership. It is hard to be a veteran leader when you aren't a very talented team and can't compete on a nightly basis. Hell, if hitting/power wasn't so down league wide I would advocate for trading Brian Dozier as well.
  17. You buy low, you sell high, you develop your talent and flood your farm system because most prospects will fail. You don't hold onto depreciating assets that are at their high value point when you are losing 90 games for a fourth season in a row.
  18. Until he blows out his arm or has back issues or loses his confidence and can't find it again. So many things can happen to pitchers, especially relief pitchers, why risk it? Get what you can as long as it is reasonable and move forward. Don't try and appease fans because that is just bad business.
  19. It is a 160 game season...what number is significant? Especially to a team that is coming off another 90 loss season? The best case is in 2016 Perkins would be closing out menaingful games, but how often do things fall in the best case scenario? 2016 will be the first full season the Twins start Sano and Buxton, and possibly Rosario, Vargas and/or Walker. Meyer and May might be on their second. Berrios possibly makes it out of camp. A smart play is a play for 2017 and Perkins is too valuable of a trade peice to waste for 2 to 3 years. Trade him, keep adding talent to the farm system, and if things break early, we can sign or trade for any pieces we need at that time.
  20. Disagree. Look at Aaron Hicks. Look at Oswaldo Arcia. Look at Kyle Gibson. We are seeing right in front of us the growing pains that young players go through when they asscend to the major league level. Are we really going to be so naive that we believe Meyer, Mays, Buxton, Rosario and Sano will not go through these same struggles in some form or another? We aren't competing in 2015, we are growing but that growth rarely translates into wins. There will be injuries, slumps, and mental errors, all which will keep our wins down despite the flashes of potential.
  21. Trading Perkins isn't about keepnig anyone down or salary concerns, it is about rebuilding a franchise and closers aren't franchise cornerstones. Selling high on older players is good business. The fact that Perkins is on a decent contract only helps his value. The idea of holding onto "All Stars" and "hometown players" is bad business if they are not moving your team forward. Look at the recent history of poor decisions the Twins have made regarding their players during their string of 90 loss seasons. The re-signed Mauer paying him huge money to move from catcher to 1B and evolve into Todd Helton, they failed to trade Willingham who has only lost trade value since and they lost Cuddyer in FA. Now they have two valuable assets in Suzuki and Perkins and they are going to hold onto them as well and we will lose 90 games again next year. Baseball is about starting pitching and impact hitters and neither Suzuki or Perkins fall into either of those categories.
  22. I don't believe they will trade Perkins either but for others to say they shouldn't is pretty funny. Look at what happened with Buxton and Sano this year, Gibson two years ago and understand we are a bad team. The idea that Rosario, Buxton, Sano, Meyer and Mays are all going to come up next year and produce is delusion. Players get injured, they struggle and other things come up. If you have an older asset like Perkins, you trade him if you can get a legitimate deal for him. You keep adding pieces and deal with specific issues when you get there. Trade Kurt Suzuki. Players get hurt, they get into funks, and sometimes it all falls apart in a hurry. Get rid of them and move forward rather than clinging to the ridiculous idea that the stars will align in 2015. If we get close to competing in 2016 then we can add a closer if one has not emerged. Then we can add a catcher if it is still a hole on the roster.
  23. Yes, and I feel that his ability to drive in runs is what is going to make him a success over time. Two things are in demand right now in Major League baseball, one being power and two being the ability to capitalize on pitcher's mistakes. Walker is not going to be a .325 hitter, but there aren't as many of those as their used to be. What Walker is going to become is a hitter who, when the pitcher makes a mistake pitch, will be able to crush it and do significant damage. The ability to do that is what will make him stick in my opinion.
  24. Also a big reason I would like to see Meyer and May get some starts in the bigs. It is always nice as an athlete to know what you need to work on. Then you can set a plan and work it. One of the most difficult things is to not know what you need to do which can lead to delayed development. By being promoted at this point of the season, Berrios is going to be able to go into the offseason with a better idea of what he needs to work on. That is important for a young player. IT should be the same for May and Meyer. Call them up after the All Star break, let them get a feel for the difference between AAA and the Pros, and let them go into the offseason with an idea of where they need to improve. That way, to start 2015, they can head into Spring Training with the best opportunity to make the roster.
  25. The question is what are you building towards? If you are building a franchise, then you need to use your seasons to find out what you have in players. We know what we have in Correia and it is not something worth keeping. We don't know how our AAA starters who have been pitching well will respond to the big leagues though they do project well. At worst we get similar production and at best we get an improvement, all while trying to get some answers for 2015. If the idea is getting better as a franchise, continuing to start Correia does nothing towards reaching that goal.
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